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Author Topic: 70mm. on 33' screen!!!! James Robertson Film Handler Posts: 40 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: May 2001 posted 01-20-2003 12:36 AM                     An interesting item from International Projectionist June 1962.!! Can you imagine the picture quality with 70mm. on a 33' screen. It must have been stupendous.!!! Here is the 33-ft. panoramic screen designed for Norelco 70/35 min film projection in the 664 seat theatre aboard new luxury liner SS France. Behind the screen are five Norelco loudspeakers for motion pictures, and in addition acoustic panels either side open as needed to release stereophonic sound through concealed column speakers. Travelers on the new luxury ship, SS France, are being treated to wide-screen movie-viewing for the first time on any ocean liner. Thanks to two 70/35 mm motion picture projectors by Norelco (North American Philips), ocean travelers may, as a change from ping-pong, shuffleboard or deck-chair socializ-ing, enjoy "going to the movies" in the best big-theatre tradition. The liner's theatre is the largest theatre afloat and the best equipped on land or sea. Continuous (14 hours daily) motion pictures, including the best and latest U. S. and European films and spectaculars are shown by Norelco's 16, 35/70 mm projectors with an especially designed Norelco high-fidelity stereophonic sound system on the theatre's 33 ft. curved panoramic screen for wide-gauge film. Another luxury feature of the ship's motion picture system and an-other first in "movies at sea" is the simultaneous projection of films for private viewing on first class cabin television screens and in public rooms throughout the ship. Norelco's 70/35 min projectors are now installed in more than 130 mo-tion pictures theatres in the U.S-ten in Hollywood alone. At the heart of the television and acoustical installations is a nerve center or control room from which radio officers transmit throughout the ship selected musical programs (recorded or from radio broadcasts), orders and announcements, and television programs. Four hundred and fifty connections for television receivers give passengers in deluxe suites, first class cabins, and in the ship's public rooms a wide range of TV viewing. Within television range of either coast, passengers can enjoy French, European, or American programs. Also, within range of America, color television can be received on six special sets in the salons. In addition, live programs from the ship's studio (better equiped than most of those in Europe), and taped programs are available. Philips' acoustical system, the most extensive ever installed on a liner, is comprised of three networks. The "crew" network. the network for "orders and announcements" and, of most interest to the passenger, the 14 concert" network which relays radio programs and recorded music as well as happenings aboard the ship. This installation enables the simultaneous distribution of seven different pro-s~rams via eighteen different lines to crew rooms and passenger areas. Staterooms are provided with selector switches for a choice of programs. In all, nearly 1,500 loudspeakers are fed by this system. In the theatre, seating a record 664 people, the two Philips projec-tors make available for the first time the projection at sea of wide-gauge panoramic films. Splayed walls in the theatre provide the ultimate in acoustic perfection for the stereophonic sound system which is supplied with five loudspeakers behind the panoramic ~ screen and fourteen others strategically placed throughout the auditorium.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-20-2003 02:12 AM                     There are plenty of 70mm cinemas with screens less than 33 feet. The former MOMI cinema, now NFT3, in London, for example, maybe 20-25 feet. This place was re-equipped at about the time the museum closed - DP-70s out, Cinemeccanica Vic. 8s in, and I'm not sure if it can still run 70mm. I'm not sure of the screen size in the main NFT1 auditorium, but it must be about 33 fet. I have seen several examples of 1930s cinemas which were tripled in the '60s or '70s, where one of the small auditoria had 70mm, fully equipped, not just a projector, at least some of these did actually run 70mm at least once, typically on a screen of about 20 feet. Almost all of these places have now closed. The recently opened Enigma cinema at the Bletchley Park museum has 70mm, I'm not sure of the screen size, but I doubt if it's more than 12 - 15 feet. They cannot run more than an hour, as they only have one 70mm machine; they do have a tower, but this is 35mm only. A typical programme at this place only runs for a few minutes, so this doesn't really matter. The private home cinema where I recently installed 4 track mag was offered a pair of 70mm machines for use with their 4 metre screen, but had to turn them down, as they did not have enough height in the box to fit them in. There must be some preview theatres which are 70mm equipped, and what about equipment demonstration at trade shows etc. There are plenty of places which can show 70mm on small screens, how often they do it is another matter, and it does look very good. [ 01-20-2003, 03:31 AM: Message edited by: Stephen Furley ]  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 01-20-2003 02:44 AM                     I'd guess the flat screen at the NMPFT is around maybe 35-40ft? Dick?  |  IP: Logged Serge Bosschaerts Film Handler Posts: 70 From: Schoten, Belgium Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-20-2003 05:20 AM                        I have a short film on 35mm about the building of the ship. The SS France is shown from the first steel plate up to the first departure to New York. Also can see the two DP70's in the booth and also a quick look at the theatre with balcony for the first class passengers. Sadly no pictures of the screen ...  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-20-2003 10:09 AM                     Those DP70's are now located in Hollywood at Todd-AO Studios in room number 1. (sn#1741 & 1744)  |  IP: Logged John Walsh Film God Posts: 2490 From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way Registered: Oct 1999 posted 01-20-2003 06:06 PM                     Where I used to work, we showed 70mm on a 32' screen. When we ran 'Brainstorm' the opening credits (which curved out towards you, as if printed on a balloon being blown up) really had a slight 3D look.  |  IP: Logged Darren Briggs Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: York, UK Registered: Dec 2001 posted 01-20-2003 06:24 PM                        The two cinemas in Yorkshire in England which show 70mm have screens of allmost identical size, The Pictureville in Bradford is 33'5" wide and City Screen York is 33' wide. Im not sure if they still have full 5/70 in the Imax cinema, the Vic8 is still used for 35mm. Dick at Bradford could fill us in on that one. They stopped showing 5/70 in there when the Pictureville opened. Note the Cinerama Screen in the Pcturville is 42'8" I think Yorkshire is the only place in the U.K where you can see 70mm every month. Darren (My Shamless plugs, 'The Right Stuff' 70mm Jan 26th City Screen York, 'My Fair Lady'70mm March 2nd, City Screen York)  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-20-2003 08:53 PM                     At home I run 70mm on a 12 foot wide screen. This screen is a bit wider than the 9 foot wide screen that I had back in Chicago...talk about sharp...its way too sharp.....I have to watch with my reading glasses on to make it slightly blurred so it looks like the image on that 33 foot screen. Mark  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-21-2003 05:09 AM                     Darren wrote: quote: I think Yorkshire is the only place in the U.K where you can see 70mm every month. Certainly not in London any more. I don't think that either the Odeon or the Empire in Leicester Square has shown anything in years. The NFT pulls out its print of LOA about once a year, and maybe one other film per year, but that is about all. I'll try to get to one of your shows one day; I can't find time to get up there at the moment. The only auditorium I have been in at York is No.2, I've been to a couple of the British Transport Films shows done by Paddington Films and Hertfordshire Railtours. Does the one where you have the 70mm installation seat many more than this?  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 01-21-2003 06:27 PM                     Well my home (Living Room)Westrex 5000 35/70mm home cinema has a 6ft wide 70mm picture, but I have seen one with a DP70 in a Garden Shed with a 3ft wide 70mm screen!  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-21-2003 06:45 PM                     Ben, was it you who ran some 70mm on a Westrex machine at a BFCC at Ealing Town Hall a few years ago?  |  IP: Logged Peter Hall Master Film Handler Posts: 314 From: London, UK Registered: Dec 2000 posted 01-22-2003 01:25 PM                        Ben - you need to find a woman ! Or a good book ! Or at least a hobby ! Some other 70mm houses in London - Planet Hollywood, about 22' Richmond Filmhouse - 2 DP70s but I think they have replaced the CP200 with a Ultra Stereo (why ?) and no longer run 70mm Curzon Mayfair - being refitted - 48' And of course Ben Wales' garage !  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-22-2003 03:15 PM                     Peter 70mm is a good hobby and no living room is complete without at least one projector sitting in it  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-22-2003 05:38 PM                    I've run unmarried (picture + track) in my bedroom.  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 01-22-2003 06:47 PM                     Stephen: Yes it was me at Ealing, plan to do something in Cinemascope this may at this venue and who knows a bit of 70mm! I am also planing to install a DP70 at home, so one day a two projector 70mm at home. Peter: At least my 70mm projector will not ask where I have been etc or nags or the time if I left the dishes pilled up in the kitchen!. Could be worst, could be train spotting on the railway line next to my place at home  |  IP: Logged

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