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Author Topic: Whats wrong with this picture Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-16-2003 06:58 PM                      |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-16-2003 07:09 PM                     He isn't using AW3 platters. I've seen this quite a bit. If the print is small I can move it by myself without clamps. If I have a helper we never use clamps (don't want the scratched platter decks), but I would never move such a big print without a helper or clamps!  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-16-2003 07:12 PM                     the sound "rack" is wall mounted (too high for short people to reach), the platter is slightly out of level, there is a big glass on an electrical wire raceway, and if you look closely......there is a bad splice between reels 9 & 10 Rick  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-16-2003 07:12 PM                        Same here, I almost never use clamps. Anytime I would prefer to they usually aren't big enough for the print. Provided a platter is rewinding with proper tension I don't think twice about moving anything around 110 minutes by myself like in the photo. BTW, that looks like a print of Gods and Generals. Oh and the fact that it looks Photoshopped.  |  IP: Logged German Marin Expert Film Handler Posts: 227 From: Verbania (VB), Italy Registered: Jul 2001 posted 03-16-2003 07:22 PM                     The smile. How do you do to have a big smile while you're handling that big print (without clamps)! Obviously the guy that took the picture should be helping you, doesn't he? How many reels has that movie print?  |  IP: Logged Tim Turner Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Chula Vista, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-16-2003 08:07 PM                     I can understand how he'd pick up that print like that, but I don't understand how he intends to lay it down. Anyway moving a large print like that with no help or clamps isn't very smart. I don't know if thats you Aaron, but I'm guessing that guy is not a projectionist, but probably a manger from downstairs, acting like he can do everytyhing, and he probably hasn't visited this website before either.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-16-2003 08:08 PM                        You'd basically have to throw it on the deck -- and hope you don't miss!  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-16-2003 08:31 PM                        That picture scares the hell out of me and I don't even work in a freakin' booth.  |  IP: Logged Manuel Francisco Valencia Expert Film Handler Posts: 151 From: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 03-16-2003 08:34 PM                     We only had to move Gods and Generals once and we just pulled up the platter. With about fifteen minutes of trailers I believe Gods and Generals comes close to 4 miles of film. That would be a bitch to put back together if it were ever dropped.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-16-2003 08:41 PM                        That big fluorescent light in the ceiling has got to go! My preferred method for moving prints between platters is the "cookie sheet," which is just a big round masonite (?) disk with a hole in the center and holes for the pins in the center ring. The print takes up onto the cookie sheet on its last show, and then the whole thing can be easily and safely lifted up and moved to another house without needing clamps. This avoids scratching the platter decks and makes it possible to move prints which are either too long or too short to be clamped. I've never had the luxury of having a helper to assist with print moves and have had the "fun" of moving prints in a theatre where getting from one booth to the other involves walking through a (stadium-style) auditorium and then up a very steep staircase. Thankfully I've never had a problem when moving prints (knock on wood).  |  IP: Logged Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-16-2003 08:56 PM                     The person in this picture is my boss, not me and in the past five years he has not dropped any prints, though he has come close and even he will admit that. I respect this guy as probably one of the best I've worked with in twelve years, but yes he can get a little cocky from time to time. His name is Chad and I have his permission to post this picture. This post has been edited by me because I accidentelly remained logged in on the booth computer and Chad felt the need to defend himself on my name and password. Brad, for that I apologize. So come on Chad, register and post, you asked for it buddy!  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-16-2003 09:28 PM                     that booth has an internet connection?  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-17-2003 12:46 AM                        I like to use the cookie sheet whenever possible, too. As far as moving prints myself, I just don't do it. Even if it is just a small 5 reel print. The way I see it, the extra 5 minutes you save by not calling and waiting for someone to give you a hand is laughable compared to the time you'll be spending on the floor with your splicer if you misstep and drop it. I also don't think slinging the print over your shoulder is a very advisable way to move prints either. While it's certainly more comfortable to carry and move around that way, if the print DID start to come apart on you, you would have almost no control, and no quick way to get it onto a horizontal surface without having to turn it (and probably end up doing more harm in the process) The most god-awful, mind-bogglingly unprofessional way I've ever heard of people moving prints, happened for quite some time at the theater I work at. As I understand it, when the old projection staff (made up, not surprisingly, of teenagers who couldn't care less)had to move prints, they would just tape up the print on the platter, and than lift the entire platter off of the tree and swap it with the platter where they were moving it to. Thankfully these people were fired and are now gracing the kitchens of various fast food establishments. And as you could probably have guessed, a good number of our platters are FUBAR as a result.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-17-2003 01:08 AM                     What's wrong with that picture? you probably jammed a your back enough where you had some pain the next day.  |  IP: Logged Don Bruechert Mmmmmmmmm, bird! Posts: 340 From: Manitowoc, WI, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 03-17-2003 08:31 AM                        We do that platter move thing. It works quite well. All of our platters are the same type, and if we get a print that is too big for clamps we either have to pull several reels off and then put them back on, or find some other way. A couple guys I work with came up with a clamp that spans the entire platter and holds the print down. Then two of us pick up the whole platter and carry it to the next booth it needs to live in. We take the empty platter from that booth and put it in place of the one we just moved. Saves a lot of time and we haven't had any problems.  |  IP: Logged

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