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Author Topic: Question about ORC 1600 lamphouse Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-24-2003 11:12 PM                     Is their such an animal and what are its specs? Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-24-2003 11:32 PM                     It's just like the ORC 1000 watt integrated portable lamphouse, but it runs 1600 watt bulbs and runs off of single phase 220.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 03-24-2003 11:33 PM                    The 1600 that I'm thinking of is a small lamphouse tied to an external large, flat rectifier with a multipin mil spec connector that includes the heavy DC connections as well as the other conductors. The rectifier is regulated on the DC side using a large bank of germanium transistors set in a heat sink with current dividing resistors. On many units the regulation is blown and it continues to run wide open with hardly a hiccup. The manual says it's rated at 45-55 A. Therefore it's really more of a 1000W lamp, just as the "ORC1000" is better suited for 700W bulbs. I have a couple of these units sitting in storage.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-24-2003 11:42 PM                     Sam, are you talking about the ORC XH-16S? the power supply is an XPS-16S. Both units are very reliable, and give a nice light on the screen if aligned properly. The igniters are easy on the lamps, (they don't splatter shit all over the place on ignition) but you should have an aux blower mounted in stack. They are easy to align, easy to interface with automation units, and they don't weigh 1 zillion pounds. I have two of these units in my personal possession, and I would not part with them for hell or high water! Only real downside....when you have to clean the blower that is inside the lamphouse, you need one stick of dynamite to blow the bastard apart so you can get at it. In otherwords, ORC did not make that lamp "technician friendly" when it comes to cleaning the blower motor. And, for Steve....you are right about that "Other 1600" lamp and power supply. Paul Mayer has one of the power supplies. Those are a bitch bitch bitch! I have one of those, too. Would not give you .02 cents for anyone of them.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-25-2003 12:19 AM                     I am not sure if its an ORC XH-16S or what. I found one on Ebay and I have asked the seller for more info. I would like to find me a nice 700-1000 wat 110 VAC unit soon.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-25-2003 12:28 AM                     Sam, if it an XH-16S and a XPS-16S, go for it. However, I am not sure what they are worth. If the mirror was in excellent condition and the rest of the lamp and power supply is also in perfect shape, it may be worth looking into. As far as I know, they will still bring up to $1000.00 (lamp and power supply). But they better be in perfect shape. Otherwise, you might be wasting your money. It is a "buyer beware" type of deal, and shop around. Don't get in a hurry.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-25-2003 12:30 AM                     Thanks for the input fellers.  |  IP: Logged John Anastasio Master Film Handler Posts: 325 From: Trenton, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 03-25-2003 05:15 AM                        I saw that one, Same. It's rather small and looks like the model 1600 that Steve mentioned above, with the big multipin connector. I've got one sitting on my porch and mine's a real piece of cat poop.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Worthing Master Film Handler Posts: 384 From: Hereford, UK Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-25-2003 07:30 AM                     quote: It's just like the ORC 1000 watt integrated portable lamphouse, but it runs 1600 watt bulbs and runs off of single phase 220. Like the ORCON 1000B the 1600B will not run a 1600W lamp IMO The on board rectifier has not got enough kick. In fact most of the ones in the UK that I have come across have an external rectifier when running 1.6k. Saying that it is a good compact lamp house & compared to many is not complicated to get good focus & light output.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-25-2003 08:56 AM                     This has been covered before The M1000 has a maximum rating of a 700 watt lamp The M1600 has a maximum rating of 1000watts This was based on the fact that the M1000 @700watts produced the same amountof light as a 1000 watt vertical lamphouse of the period The 16S was a 1600 watt unit with an external rectifier the early ones were a bank of transistors for current regulation  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-25-2003 12:23 PM                     here is the photos of the unit in question: I am still awaiting better info.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-25-2003 01:30 PM                     That thing looks like a Cine-X 35. It uses the power supply Steve described earier. I have one sitting in our warehouse that will probably wind up in the trash. The mirror is shot, and it would cost more to get the mirror resurfaced than what the lamp and power supply is worth. Sam, IMHO, forget that lamp. I think you would get hosed on it.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-25-2003 02:36 PM                     Granted these lamps and power supplys are worth perhaps 500.00 if working properly, but they are not all that bad. I know many places that rented these units and they never gave a blip of problem. Main thing here is to get plenty of air flow through the lamphouse. The rectifiers already have adaquate airflow going through them. I used several of these on location and got many years of service out of them. I had great lamp life, and little to no problems at all. These days the replacement semi's are quite expensive to aquire as the power transistors are germanium, and cost about 35.00 a pop. But the main thing is that you can still most of the parts for them, except reflector, and cabinet parts. All in all they were quite advanced for their time...... Mark  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-27-2003 11:12 AM                     For better or worse its mine now.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-27-2003 11:59 AM                     Good luck with it, Sam. I have some parts if you need them if the lamp and power supply didn't find its way into the dumpster. I am going down to the office in a little bit, and if I still have it, I'll "rathole" it for you.  |  IP: Logged

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