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Author Topic: Super 35 Assistance Needed Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-26-2003 10:13 PM                     Hello all! Its film festival season here again, and this time I am having to screen two 'raw' (pre-squeeze) Super 35 answer prints (the prints will be struck with Dolby Digital soundtracks to avoid any double-system headaches). My question is concerning cutting an aperture plate for this format. SMPTE RP40 doesn't have the cutting templates marked for raw Super 35 (and RP40 figures the optical track area into its framing, which I won't need). Is there a test film out there that I can use as a template for cutting a plate? Or must I use trial and error until it looks right? Thanks in Advance! -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-26-2003 10:14 PM                     Boston Light I think ahs one  |  IP: Logged Rick Long Jr Expert Film Handler Posts: 211 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-26-2003 10:37 PM                     When I did it for 8 Mile, the studio provided me with a loop. Perhaps they could for you if you ask them?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-26-2003 10:45 PM                     Aaron, Call me at work tommrrow morning with your address and such. I've done countless Super 35 dailies jobs and I have a gob of Super 35 target loops. Would be happy to share one with you. Mark @ CLACO 801-355-1250  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-27-2003 08:26 AM                        The EBU also has a Super-35 test film: http://www.bksts.com/pdfs/testflm.pdf D.E.L. also has a Super-35 target: http://www.broadcastpapers.com/telecine/16x9_setup.doc And custom targets are sometimes made for a production: http://www.cinephoto.co.uk/misc_film_16.htm  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 03-27-2003 10:18 AM                    Dolby Digital without an analog optical track for backup? That's working without a net!  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-27-2003 10:28 AM                     I've had a few prints in that format come through here like that.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-27-2003 10:57 AM                        For an direct "EK" Super-35 festival print, the normal quad-format sound negative could be printed along with the Super-35 picture negative, using the full width picture aperture and the analog soundhead light off, giving a Super-35 print with only Dolby Digital and/or SDDS tracks. As Steve notes, there's no "safety net" if the digital defaults.  |  IP: Logged Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 03-27-2003 07:58 PM                        provided the print was timed correctly and such, there should not be a reliability issue at all. At home to save my exciters, I just turn off the exciter supply and run digital only. very rarely will it drop out. Josh  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-27-2003 09:42 PM                     I service a couple of theaters without optical sound. The SRD doesn't fail. This is really not that big of an issue. When I run movies in the screening room, I don't even turn on the breaker that powers the leds for the analog pickup. (I also tend to only bother threading up the SRD.) Usually the production will provide you with a Super 35 loop for alignment. The filmmakers generally like to see it for a few seconds before they start viewing any of their dailies. Be careful of your lamp alignment. You'll be squeezing every ounce of light that you can and your lamphouse will be off center optically if you do not realign things for the Super 35 setup.  |  IP: Logged

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