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Author Topic: Unknown(?) RCA/Brenkert Matthew Bailey Master Film Handler Posts: 461 From: Port Arthur,TX Registered: Sep 2000 posted 04-22-2003 08:51 PM                     I,m uncertain about this RCA/Brenkert projector. The projector head has the circular RCA logo on it but what BX model is it? I am also uncertain of the soundhead & magazines as shown.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-22-2003 09:03 PM                     Matthew, That could be a BX-40, or 80. One would actually have to look at the tag as they are not readily distinguishable from each other in a photo. Soundhead is either a 9030 or 9050 adapted for preview use...and can run either optical, or magnetic at the flip of a switch. Again not distinguishable from just a photo. The lower magazine is a preview magazine capable of holding three 1000 foot rolls of film. There is sound feed and take up as well as picture take up in the lower. Top mag is a standard RCA mag. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 04-22-2003 09:31 PM                     That projector is, as Mark suggested, a BX-40 or BX-80. However, I would lean to the BX-40. The reason being the emblem on the door. The "40" and "80" emblems are a little different. The "40" emblem is a little more "heftier" than the "80", but not by much. Whatever it actually is, it has the orginal Brenkert changeover on it. The last one I seen like that was 36 years ago. It is definately not a BX-60, 62, or BX-100. In any event, that whole set-up is a real beauty.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-22-2003 10:24 PM                        What? No funky art-deco upper and lower reel magazines? If I ever work in a Brenkert booth, I definitely want to have the complete 1940s Brenkert experience, complete with funky reel magazines and Enarc lamps, just like the pictures in the old manuals.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 04-22-2003 10:53 PM                     Scott, I think the racing stripes Brenkert put on were an option for those who could afford them. But yes, there is nothing like a "Brenkert Experience" of a complete RCA/Brenkert Booth (including the orginal change-over's) like those orginal machines of '40s. Those booths were a dream to run.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 04-22-2003 11:41 PM                        quote: Soundhead is either a 9030 or 9050 adapted for preview use...and can run either optical, or magnetic at the flip of a switch How would that work? Was there a mag scheme that put the sound synch below the picture? The only mag I've ever seen were the penthouses over the projector.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 04-23-2003 12:19 AM                     As with Jack, I thought an "Outhouse" (penthouse) was needed to do the mag stuff. Enlighten me, Mark. Maybe I completely missed your point, but can you go into more detail so I can put it in my feeble memory bank?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 04-23-2003 12:25 AM                        It's run double system with the mag reel (feed and takeup) in the lower magazine beside the picture takeup reel. The mag reel feeds up into the sound head and then back down onto its takeup reel. BTW, it looks like a BX-40 to me.  |  IP: Logged Matthew Bailey Master Film Handler Posts: 461 From: Port Arthur,TX Registered: Sep 2000 posted 04-23-2003 06:13 AM                     The further pictures fom the encycloprdia I printed this pic from shows the inside of the soundhead meaning it's optical only. It shows a slitted partition to the right of the sprocket,the sprocket connected to the stabilizer flywheel & to the right of the partition is the photo cell.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Stricker Master Film Handler Posts: 481 From: Calumet, Mi USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 04-23-2003 06:59 AM                     Robert Sprague (brenkert historian) wrote and told me that the BX-40 didn't have the polished aluminum vertical stripes on the door, but was painted all one color. That would make this a BX-80. (??)  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-23-2003 08:31 AM                     The double system versions basically had a bypass set of rollers so the pix element effectivly bypassed the soundhead and the seperate audio track went through the scanner from one spindle in the lower magazine and back down. In effect it is a dubber and projector in one box. It is likely that this is an optical only unit as most of the older preview machines of this vintage predated reeves use of perforated mag stock  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 04-23-2003 10:21 AM                     Like Gordon said about double-system versions. On the double-system version you could only run single strip 1000 foot mag reels. We have a pair of XL's that are set-up for double-system runs in our LA office. We use that set-up for dallies.  |  IP: Logged Bob Koch Expert Film Handler Posts: 183 From: williams ca Registered: Nov 2001 posted 04-23-2003 12:14 PM                     Definitly BX 80. The fancy magazines with the racing stripes that Paul tells about were not a Brenkert item but were made to use on Brenkert projectors by one Clarence[I think] Nelson an operator in Dallas who had a machine shop. They were called "Nelson Magazines for Brenkert Projectors"  |  IP: Logged Robert Throop Master Film Handler Posts: 412 From: Vernon, NY USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-23-2003 01:08 PM                     Nelson also made a takeup that I think used some type of fluid clutch.  |  IP: Logged

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