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Daniel Fuentz
Expert Film Handler

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From: Fresno, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2003


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I was given a print of a 1980's Festival Theaters policy trailer, but whoever used it last cut off the leaders and then put a big hunk of MASKING TAPE over then end. Since this has been like this for a number of years, the masking tape has left a nasty residue on the tail end of the trailer. There are also a number of fingerprints and crap all over the end of the film, since the tail leader was never spliced back on. Is there any way to clean this, or is it [sex] ?

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Aaron Mehocic
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: New Castle, PA, USA
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I have used Filmguard to remove masking tape residue with great results. Obviously your situation is different then mine since my residue was only a year old at worst. Try it. You may be pleasantly surprised. [Smile]

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Paul G. Thompson
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Filmguard will aid in masking tape residue removal.

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Ken Layton
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Olympia, Wash. USA
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I've always used lighter fluid (has Naptha in it).

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Daniel Fuentz
Expert Film Handler

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Whew. I'm relieved to know this IS salvageable! Now I have to get my hands on some Film-Guard and I'll have to befriend a projectionist at the local megaplex so I can actually view this thing!! [Smile]

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Mike Rendall
Film Handler

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From: Southampton, Hampshire, UK
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From a scientific point of view, the best product so far that can dissolve the glue residue but without attacking the film base is 1,1,1-TriChloroethane. This substance IS hazardous to health when used in very large quantities but for small cleaning purposes on very bad prints with an open window or adequate ventilation is fine.

In the UK, this used to be sold as Tipp-ex thinner but I think they have since changed the base solvent.

Being a chemist I also tried a selection of other solvents (in a proper chemical laboratory rather than in a film exhibition environment) and I would discount any of the following as they didn't work :

Ethanol
Acetone / propanone (Eats polyester prints!)

I am still looking to see if there are any other solvents out there - (would be interesting to find out what the key ingredient in film guard is!)

Mike

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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From: West Milford, NJ, USA
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Film Guard is great for cleaning dirt and hiding scratches, but for removing tape residue, I prefer ECCO 1500 film cleaner, available at many larger camera stores and on-line. The ECCO works better on tape residue and evaperates quickly.

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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Kodak's website has a list of solvents suitable for film cleaning:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/hse/solvent.jhtml?id=0.2.16.20&lc=en

1,1,1-trichloroethane (methyl chloroform) was widely used as a film cleaner (was the primary solvent used in many proprietary film cleaning formulas), but it is no longer manufactured because of the Montreal Protocol agreement to eliminate the use of chemicals that deplete stratospheric ozone.

http://www.epa.gov/ozone/

http://www.epa.gov/docs/ozone/intpol/

http://www.epa.gov/reg3artd/ozonelayer/ozonemain.htm

http://millimeter.com/ar/video_kodak_receives_epa/index.htm

Mike Rendall wrote:
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Acetone / propanone (Eats polyester prints!)

Acetone attacks many plastics, especially TRIACETATE film base.

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Philippe Laude
Film Handler

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From: Longueville, Belgium
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I second Mike Rendall, TriChloroethane is the right solvent!
Wear gloves, use in a well-ventilated era!

Philippe Laude

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John Pytlak
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Although 1,1,1-trichloroethane (methyl chloroform) is no longer legally manufactured, existing and recycled supplies of it may still be available.

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Carl King
Expert Film Handler

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From: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
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I use Xecote film lube with great results. I haven't used Film Guard for that purpose yet.

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John Pytlak
Film God

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AFAIK, earlier formulas for XeCote, ECCO-1500, Retec, Renovex, and other fast-evaporating film cleaners contained solvents like 1,1,1-trichloroethane.

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William Leland III
Master Film Handler

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From: Charleston, SC,
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Just curious what does the 1,1,1 in 1,1,1-TriChloroethane stand for?

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John Pytlak
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quote:
Just curious what does the 1,1,1 in 1,1,1-TriChloroethane stand for?

Information only an organic chemist would love:

http://www.lhc.org.uk/members/pubs/books/chem/cheabaaa.htm

http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/trichlor.htm

(Same formula, different chemical structure or "isomers")

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William Leland III
Master Film Handler

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thanks, but what is an organic chemist..... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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