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Author Topic: Panalogic 1400 and 2000 with Panastereo - making nice vol fades Matthew Nock Film Handler Posts: 82 From: Bairnsdale, Victoria, Australia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-07-2003 10:24 AM                     I have two complexes which I am responsible for programming the Panalogic units in. They are a mixture of CA1400 and CA2000 MkII units. I am looking for a nice way to get these units to execute a volume fade. For example, I want to gradually (over say 6 seconds) drop the non-sync1 level down to 00, so that I can switch to non-sync2 without cutting the non-sync1 feed (which sounds messy) I have managed to do it in a round about way, by using: WAIT 1 VOL45 WAIT 1 VOL40 WAIT 1 VOL35 etc etc while this sounds okay in the auditorium, its a pain to program, especially if I ever need to change the initial start volume etc. All of these units are connected to Panastereo CSP1200 processors (except one - a Dolby CP50). Any suggestions as to how to get this to work? Cheers, M@  |  IP: Logged Oscar Neundorfer Master Film Handler Posts: 275 From: Senoia, GA Registered: May 2000 posted 05-08-2003 06:52 AM                        This might work. Let the automation select an unused format(like MAG) Insert a WAIT cue timed to correspond to the fade-out time for non-sync 1. After the wait time, let the automation select non-sync 2.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-08-2003 08:16 AM                     Try options bank A switch number 3(AS101 card)...setting it to "ON" is supposed to change the volume ramp time to 5-seconds instead of the normal 1-second. Steve [PS Moderator(s)...shouldn't this topic be in the FHF?]  |  IP: Logged Ray Derrick Master Film Handler Posts: 310 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2001 posted 05-09-2003 07:26 AM                     Matthew The Panastereo CSP1200 has built-in fade times that can be set to fast or slow in the setup menu. There are separate fade times for film formats and non-sync formats. Normally the film formats are set for a fast fade and non-sync formats set for a slow fade. If you select a film format when you are in a non-sync format, the system will do a crossfade, fading the non-sync format down slowly whilst quickly fading up the film format. If you want to fade the non-sync format slowly down BEFORE you go to the film format, then program the automation to select MUTE, wait 6 seconds and then select film. The system with the CP50 is a little different because the CP50 does not have an in-built fade and does not use serial data to control format and volume. So it's volume will be controlled by a voltage output on the AS101. However you can still set up the automation program the same way (select mute, wait 6 seconds then select film) but do as Steve G suggests and set the AS101 fade rate to slow. This way the AS101 automatically fades down the CP50's volume at a slow rate. One word of caution though. The original CA1400 firmware does not have this slow fade feature so if the CP50 is married to a CA1400 you would need to contact us for a firmware upgrade.  |  IP: Logged Ray Derrick Master Film Handler Posts: 310 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2001 posted 05-09-2003 10:59 AM                     Matthew Further to the above, if you are changing from one non-sync format to another non-sync format, the CSP1200 will do a dip-fade (fades the current non-sync format down to zero then fades up the new non-sync format) This dip-fade can be set to fast or slow, but is normally set to fast. So the solution I gave above will also work for what you want to do. Program the automation to select mute, wait 6 seconds, then select non-sync 2. With this programming, non-sync 1 will be faded down slowly because it is going to mute, but when you then select non-sync 2 it will fade up fast because it is going from one non-sync format to another. The solution for the CP50 is not so simple. We may need to add a "fade volume over so many seconds" command to the automation. Well I don't see why not, damn thing does just about eveything else under the sun  |  IP: Logged

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