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Michael Schaffer
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From: Boston, MA
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 - posted 06-01-2003 04:39 AM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just had the igniter in a Christie lamphouse say goodbye. It doesn`t buzz anymore, but buzzed away (pun intended, though maybe not a very good one). Anyway, I was told it had just been replaced 2 weeks ago. Is there a known problem with the rectifiers that might cause them to kill the igniters serially?

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 06-01-2003 08:26 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does it looked like the connections were overheated?
There are many components that could fail but usually it is due to overheating or the igniton relay keeping energized forever

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 06-01-2003 08:52 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually they can usually be repaired.
Mark @ CLACO

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German Marin
Expert Film Handler

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When the little red capacitors is dead the igniter doesn't work. When a diode is gone the igniter doesn't strike. We've not had problems with our 15 Christie's igniter. I just don't trust in Christie's rectifiers.

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Rick McCluney
Film Handler

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From: Ocean Springs, MS, USA
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From what I have seen the high voltage transformer in the igniter will go out. You can just replace that rather than replacing the whole igniter.

Rick

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Michael Schaffer
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 - posted 06-01-2003 05:48 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is no (visible) indication of overheating and the diodes are good. I have not had time yet to look at all the components closely, but will do so later. Do the transformers and relays in these units fail often? The reason I am asking is that I haven`t worked with these as much as with other systems. I am thinking about building up a little storage of the parts that are most likely to fail to make us more independent and emergency-prepared.

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Jon Bartow
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From: Massachusetts
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Rick is right, the HV transformers fail a lot. Someone told me that they had a bad batch of them a few years ago. At one theater that I service I have had about a dozen fail in the last two years. Look very carefully at the transformer. Look at the edges of the windings where they dissapear behind the core/plastic cover. Do you see any discoloration (may only look like a light dusting of black or grey powder)? If so it is a tell-tale sign that the HV trans is dead. Even if you don't, it still could be dead.
If available, try a known good ignitor in the lamphouse. And as others have said look for any discoloration or visible damage.
Jonathan

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