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Author Topic: Comments and Info on Robert Film Service Lamphouse / Reflector Upgrades Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-07-2003 04:35 PM                        I know that this has been mentioned in passing a few times in the past, but if anyone would like to share any info, comments or experience regarding the lamphouse / reflector upgrades offered by Robert Film Service in Montreal, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-07-2003 06:14 PM                     Does Robert have a web site? Mark  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-07-2003 06:20 PM                        I had heard he was in the process of making one, don't know if it's operational yet.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-07-2003 06:25 PM                     A friend in Chicago was all enthused about his stuff, but then seems have changed his mind and that the X-60 glass reflector beats em all. Of course the X-60 glass reflector is extremely scarce. There are a pair in the Dolby Screening room..... Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 06-07-2003 09:17 PM                     A couple of years ago I bought a xenon 16mm projector modified to run 6000 ft reels from him. I wrote him last summer regarding some questions I had concerning the machine. I'm still waiting for him to answer my letter and e-mails. If you go to his web site (www.robertfilm.com) it says "This site is currently under construction". It has said that for several years. The last phone number I had for him was (514) 337-4956. His address is (or was) 6969 Route Trans Canada, Suite 105, Ville St. Laurent, Quebec H4T 1V8. He had also advertised in Boxoffice a couple of times. I don't know about the reflectors.  |  IP: Logged Michael West Film Handler Posts: 67 From: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Apr 2000 posted 06-07-2003 11:41 PM                        daryl; and all interesting, i am involved with the process of installing equipment for a very small "art cinema" about to be built here and we are dealing with robert film services - this process so far has involved countless emails and questions. i found they have been very responsive. one of the executive board members had dealt with robert film before so that is why we are involved with them again - normally i would have tried at least three dealers and started with that. they seemed curiously determined to up-sell this technilight conversion kit i know nothing about - but specs seem good so we may try it. after much haggling i think we have the equipment we want - all used of course so we will see - nothing finalized yet. certainly will keep you all informed re:cinema, equiptment and all.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-08-2003 12:01 AM                        Thanks for your comments so far guys! Keep 'em coming. Technilight! That's what they're calling it, I had forgotten. Anyway, I need to light a pair of 100' scope drive-in screens and am interested in hearing about anybody's experience with the Technilight conversions -- especially on large screens. Michael, could you post these specs that you are impressed with? Thanks. -- Daryl  |  IP: Logged Greg Pauley Expert Film Handler Posts: 173 From: Huntington, WV, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 06-08-2003 01:05 AM                        We purchased the first technalight conversion kit in the US about a year and half ago and have since purchase two additional kits for super 80's. We were used as sort of a test site and I had to sign a confidentiality agreement, so I don’t feel comfortable posting any pictures or giving detail information about what is done other than to say that the technalight conversion is more than just the reflector. I am not associated with Robert Film Service or Technalight, just a customer. NCS is the exclusive distributor in the US for screens under 60ft and you can purchase directly from Robert for screens over 60ft. I got involved whenever NCS told me about this guy who had a conversion kit that would increase your light output plus allow you to drop a bulb size. I’m the kinda of guy who is willing to look at new ideas provided it doesn’t cost me a lot of money. NCS and Robert made me a deal of installing the kit at their expense and I would agree to purchase if I was satisfied. Hard to go wrong on that deal! I was very impressed with the results which dropped the bulb size down from a 4000wt to a 3000wt with an extremely brilliant white light(no greys) with readings in 20's on a 46ft old matte screen if ran at max amperage. I have been extremely pleased with the conversions and will probably purchase another kit for a super 80 once the metal reflector dies. My experience with Robert Film Service has been nothing but positive with very good customer service. Daryl, I know Robert is doing some of the majors IMAX screens for 35mm with good results but don’t have any personal experience on that size of screen. I know Robert has a 4200 wt bulb and kit that replace a 7000wt bulb. You might want to give them a call direct.  |  IP: Logged Larry Shaw Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Boston, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-11-2003 03:53 PM                        I've never seen one of these, but it's my understanding that what this upgrade involves is mounting an older design Kinoton mirror in a non-Kinoton lamphouse. The ability to use a bulb a 1 or possibly 2 sizes smaller for the same screen illumination is typical for Kinoton lamphouses. What does the upgrade kit cost? Larry  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-12-2003 08:31 AM                     Certainly being exclusively distributed by NCS will limit their influx into the US market. Most theatre owners I know would never buy item one from them.... Mark  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-12-2003 09:47 AM                     The Kinoton and the Ernamann glass reflector can't be beat for light output. For years Phillips sold the reflector with a ignitor and mounting hardware on a plate called a xenoblock as a retrofit for carbon arc lamphouses (morganite used this kit a lot) (similar to the kniesly kit but better optics). I question the advantage of upgradingg a old metal box and ignitor when the kinoton and the ernamann lamphouses are reasonable in price to start with. Also MeOpta makes an excellent glass reflector for OEM apps  |  IP: Logged Mark A. MacLellan Film Handler Posts: 23 From: Montreal, Quebec Registered: Jul 2003 posted 08-01-2003 10:35 AM                    This one made for interesting reading but I think some of the myths have to be debunked. The Technalight conversion system allows for a decrease in lamp size and dramatic increase in light on-screen while improving the definition tremendously. This is achieved by installing a glass reflector (which is not from Kinoton, it is custom made exclusively for Technalight overseas). Kits are available for nearly any lamphouse and the system is currently in use or in testing by the likes of Regal, AMC, Pacific Theatres, Cinemagic, Movieco, Consolidated, Loews, etc. And the website does in fact work...www.robertfilm.com or call the office directly at 514-337-4956. Daryl, you'd be well advised to check out the Technalight system because drive-ins are one of the best applications for Technalight. The 5-Drive In in Oakville has Technalight on all 3 of their screens.  |  IP: Logged Larry Shaw Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Boston, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-01-2003 07:01 PM                        Their site says they can "increase the light output on screen by as much as 500%". If they can do that, compared to a properly aligned modern non-Technalight system (other comparisons would be meaningless/misleading), it would be pretty amazing. I remain very skeptical.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2003 07:58 PM                     There is an internet company playing radio ads claiming a 500% increase in speed, all from your standard dialup phone line. In fact they don't even specify you need a 56K modem. The ad clearly states that you can use any old modem to experience DSL speeds with their fabulous service. http://www.getjoy.net I'm calling on that one!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-01-2003 09:06 PM                     I was told by my friend in Chicago that the reflector is manufactured in Japan for them, about 8 inches in diameter or thereabouts. The lamp was designed for them by Osram and is specially shaped. Mark  |  IP: Logged

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