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Author Topic: Beware of dts problems with "The Hulk" Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-19-2003 09:48 PM                     Have 2 prints here of the Hulk and both of them came with defective discs (printing, not physical damage). They will not read reel 6. What are the odds? I'd say it's good enough to assume that there are lots of others out there like this. Be sure and check out your copies before you go onscreen to the public in dts.  |  IP: Logged Rick Long Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 759 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Nov 1999 posted 06-19-2003 10:51 PM                     Thanks for the heads-up Brad, will listen for this.  |  IP: Logged Coleman L. Zatarain Film Handler Posts: 27 From: Alabama - USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 06-20-2003 12:21 AM                        Having this same issue with our 3 prints. One is going "in and out" and the other two are not reading at all.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-20-2003 10:34 AM                     We had yellow on the end of reel one, causing a brief drop out. Haven't run it in DTS yet.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 06-20-2003 12:09 PM                        quote: We had yellow on the end of reel one... Yellow-colored fog is usually from accidental exposure of the unprocessed print film to white light, because the blue-sensitive (yellow dye forming) layer of print film is much faster than the red or green sensitive layers.  |  IP: Logged Karen Hultgren Master Film Handler Posts: 492 From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-20-2003 03:31 PM                        Brad, are you sure it's the discs? All our discs here are working. Are you sure it's not a print problem? Karen at DTS khultgren@dtsonline.com  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-20-2003 05:41 PM                     Yes, I'm sure it is the discs. I tried copying the files to my hard drive and reel 6 would not copy.  |  IP: Logged Greg Routenburg Expert Film Handler Posts: 178 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: May 2003 posted 06-20-2003 06:05 PM                     I don't know what the lab did to our prints but the timecode lights on our readers are blinking like cheesy chistmas tree lights. I had to run both of our DTS houses in SR this afternoon because they were jumping in and out of DTS every 5 or 10 seconds.  |  IP: Logged Karen Hultgren Master Film Handler Posts: 492 From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-20-2003 07:02 PM                        All our discs are fine here but I'm getting calls on bad prints for this movie. Karen at DTS khultgren@dtsonline.com  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-20-2003 07:14 PM                     I think you mean "all but at least two of our discs are fine". If the file cannot be copied from the cdrom to a hard drive on a pc, then that HAS to be a disc issue. I just find it awfully odd that two sets would have the same disc issue on the same file. I'll bet there are more out there, which is why I put the alert up for people to check their dts. I have replacement discs coming. We'll see if they work.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 06-20-2003 07:27 PM                        Yah... that is strange. Ours are fine. Are these things copied on several duplicators?  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-20-2003 07:48 PM                     I find this whole thing about bad DTS disks and bad prints rather disturbing. DTS time code tracks are less susceptable to damage than SRD or SDDS because they don't come in contact with runner shoes, bands, or slides. Karen, maybe it is time to do a little investigation in "who is screwing up" and get the good old quality control back into disk pressing and film reproduction. This crap about "getting it out on the streets and let's worry about making it work later" philosophy really indeed sucks the "Big One" and HAS TO BE STOPPED!!!! I have noted quality control has been severely lacking on all products lately, and it is sickening! I am trying to be polite about this, but I am starting to get very angry about "film done wrong" and slip-shod cheap-assed quality control by film companies and disk pressers as well.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 06-20-2003 08:16 PM                        Geez, Paul... Just what are you trying to say?????  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-20-2003 08:24 PM                     If it makes you feel any better Paul, the SRD tracks on the Hulk prints play fine and dandy.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-20-2003 08:32 PM                    some of the problem is in that damn technicolor lab. Bruce almighty, 2 fast 2 furious and now the hulk have had timecode issues to some degree. I think something could be out of calibration or something on those printers.  |  IP: Logged

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