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Author Topic: Lobby previews Alan Gilbertson Expert Film Handler Posts: 148 From: Carpentersville Il 60110 Registered: Nov 1999 posted 10-19-2003 07:02 PM                        At one of our sites we have lobby preview using a video projector and DVD. Due to lighting issues we are thinking about using 35mm trailers and a endless loop platter. Since the projector will be behind the screen what is need to make the picture facing the right way and not backwards? Is is this not even possible  |  IP: Logged Pete Lawrence Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: Middleburg, PA Registered: Aug 1999 posted 10-19-2003 07:25 PM                     35mm rear projection is done by positioning the projector 90 degrees to the screen and bouncing the image off a front surface mirror in front of the lens. In my opinion this is the perfect place for video projection in a theater. A current model of video projector should give you more than enough light. You will have the same lighting issues with film as with video.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-19-2003 07:28 PM                     When I was at Southsound, I just simply roped off an area and set up a vintage projector (a Brenkert BX-100, RCA 1050 soundhead and a Peerless Magnarc fitted with an incandescent automotive driving light bulb powered by a 12-volt battery charger.) I ran 6,000 foot reels. It was quite popular....the patrons just loved seeing it run. Pete is correct. It can be done with mirrors. However, you might have some keystone problems. How severe...I don't know. I would presume the closer you have the mirror to the lens, the less keystone problems you will have.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-19-2003 08:59 PM                     Will the ELF platters work with a short show? I was under the impression they had a minimum loop time of 90 minutes, or something along those lines.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-19-2003 09:42 PM                        Yes, you need a show about 90 minutes long. Not the cheapest way, but you could mount a digital penthouse on the projector backwards and run the film with sound track on the inboard side. Sure you'd be off on the optical centre and the emulsion would be on the wrong side, but it'd probably look alright.  |  IP: Logged Bevan Wright Expert Film Handler Posts: 176 From: Fountain Valley, CA, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-19-2003 10:15 PM                        There are 20min versions of the ELF, but video is definitely the way to go here.  |  IP: Logged Edward Jurich Master Film Handler Posts: 305 From: Las Vegas USA Registered: Jul 2003 posted 10-19-2003 10:48 PM                     Couldn't you just set up a projector behind the candy counter. Then the same kid that starts the shows can run the previews  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-20-2003 01:35 AM                        Paul, what a great idea, especially for an arthouse....getting all the vintage stuff out there where the audience can ohh and ahh over it. Set it up like a working historical exhibit with a printed description explaining each of the pieces of equipment and the date of their manufacture. Of course the problem would be how to run it as a continuous loop....possibly have the film looped and dumped into a lab bag? Frank  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-20-2003 09:50 AM                        Are video versions (tape or DVD) of trailers available on a timely basis, just as with 35mm trailers? Do they have the same distribution channels? How about trailers for theatres showing a feature using Digital Cinema? Can you get copies of needed trailers in the file format used by your server? Is there a list of trailers that are available in digital form?  |  IP: Logged David Favel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 764 From: Ashburton, New Zealand Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-20-2003 08:52 PM                     Or install a plasma screen to play your DVDs on  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-20-2003 09:06 PM                     Video would make more sense and a plasma or LCD flat panel would be the most elegant way to go. But I have to say that the idea of exhibiting some old equipment in operation with samples of today's films (in this case, trailers) would really make a powerful point as to the enduring quality of the film format.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-20-2003 10:46 PM                        As for plasma displays, you had better have a really reliable security service policing your building 24/7 because those things just scream "STEAL ME!" We toyed with the idea (they certainly do have a super-cool high-tech quality) as we are undergoing a full renovation of our Grand Lobby, but then nixed it only because we have Micky Mouse Rent-a-Cops and the things would be gone in a week. If the thieves are going to steal something, let them steal a $400 35" TV set instead of a $8000 plasma screen! Since John brought up the question of the availability of promo material on video formats (usually the publicity dept of the majors have all the ad gack available for the taking once you book the feature), let me ask the same question about DLP -- Suppose I installed the beast. How do I go about getting product? My assumption is, and this is what I am curious about, are all films made available in digital form? From seeing what is shown in the D-Cinema theatres here in NYC, it would seem that only a few titles are released in digital. Wouldn't that be a bigger obstacle, more so even than the insane price and the questionable quality of the picture? Or would I just have to accept the fact that nine out of every ten releases will not be available to me? How does that work? And how are they distributing the digital data...is it still some guy coming in  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-20-2003 10:46 PM                        Tribute Entertainment distributes 'compilations' of their Tribute TV television show that features trailers and 'movie info'. They also distribute rolling stock via Big Screen Entertainment. Currently they are partenered with Cinemark Theatres, Empire Theatres, Cinémas Guzzo, Galaxy Cinemas, Rainbow Cinemas, and Le Cinémas Ciné Enterprise. Oh yeah, can't forget their movie magazines... eveybody like movie magazines.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-21-2003 08:02 AM                        Frank Angel asked: quote: let me ask the same question about DLP -- Suppose I installed the beast. How do I go about getting product? My assumption is, and this is what I am curious about, are all films made available in digital form? From seeing what is shown in the D-Cinema theatres here in NYC, it would seem that only a few titles are released in digital. Wouldn't that be a bigger obstacle, more so even than the insane price and the questionable quality of the picture? Or would I just have to accept the fact that nine out of every ten releases will not be available to me? How does that work? According to http://www.dcinematoday.com , a worldwide total of less than 100 features have been available for digital presentation since the first four theatres played "Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace" in May 1999. Many of these features were overseas releases, primarily in Brazil, China, UK, and Japan. Almost two dozen more are already listed for release in the next two years, making a worldwide total of 117 releases from May 1999 to December 2005, as of today (October 21, 2003): http://www.dcinematoday.com/dcdb/content.aspx ("Digital Titles" search, select content "All Dates") For comparison, according to MPAA figures, about 500 feature films are released each year: http://www.mpaa.org/useconomicreview/2002/2002_Economic_Review.pdf (see chart on page 13)  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-21-2003 04:29 PM                        and remember, the mpaa figure only represents films submitted to them. many, many overseas films, and some u.s. films, aren't included in that number (and it's only fair to include these since we're including overseas d-cinema releases in the comparison). of course i don't have a number and i don't know if anyone does. carl  |  IP: Logged

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