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Author Topic: Hooking up DVD sound to CP500 Kelsey Crozier Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Registered: Nov 2002 posted 10-27-2003 10:23 PM                     Hi, what we had previously done was use the non sync 2 input. What head office now want's us to do is buy a Yamaha receiver and use it to decode the sound and use the 6 ch input (external digital processor). My question is do we need to buy this new Yamaha receiver to decode or is there some way to setup the cp500 to do it? Thanks, Kelsey  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 10-27-2003 11:16 PM                    I believe this is possible on a CP650, not on a CP500 so decoding externally and feeding into the 6 track input is the way to go. I'm assuming the receiver you plan to use has line level outputs for each signal not just power (speaker) outputs. You might also consider a DVD player with built-in decoding.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-27-2003 11:23 PM                     You will need the 6 track external input card and a custom DB25 to RCA cable. I can set you up with both if you want to drop me an email. The card just slides in and the DB25 cable just plugs into the back of the unit. Super simple once you have the components.  |  IP: Logged Kris Brunton Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: Napanee, Ontario, Canada Registered: Apr 2000 posted 10-27-2003 11:46 PM                     As Brad said you need to make sure the CP500 has the external 6 channel card. I would assume your setup has DTS move kits so this is probably not a problem but check to make sure. We built literally hundreds of these conversion boxes for Famous Players, and judging by your first comment with the Yamaha receivers you are looking to duplicate the exact set up. If you want, contact me and I can send you the details of the FP setup. We installed two leveling pots for the L+R input to the Yamaha unit. Also gave versatility for other set ups.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-28-2003 04:11 AM                  Steve is right... quote: You might also consider a DVD player with built-in decoding. Why go with a separate receiver/decoder and have an extra piece of equipment... another failure point. That is really a poor solution. If you got a player with a built-in decoder, you would have the old player as a back-up in case the primary one failed and the show could still go on. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Kelsey Crozier Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Registered: Nov 2002 posted 10-28-2003 04:36 AM                     Last I knew Dolby has the card on back order, but the custom cable has been arranged and will arrive in the next day or two so I can plug it in and imagine how it sounds for now. The DVD player we have is a Panasonic DVD-S35, it has progressive scan and 480P/480I switchable component video. Nothing too fancy $145Can. Thanks for the quick replies. I have to say I have been lurking here for some time now and this is the most professional and polite forum on the net. Brad and the other moderators do an excellent job.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-28-2003 04:49 AM                        Definitely get a player with a built-in decoder. It's probably cheaper than getting an external decoder for your existing player, anyway. Having said that, how often are you going to be showing DVDs with 5.1 sound? If it's a regular thing, then it makes sense to set everything up this way. If it's a super-rare event, why not just stick with what you have and set up custom formats for non-sync 2 (you'll probably need at least three--mono only, straight left/right to left/right channels, and LCRS Dolby matrix without NR). I've done several video shows lately (Beta SP, Digi-beta, and HD), and all have had mono or 2-track (left/right) sound...no matrixed surround, even.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Brown Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Newcastle, NSW, Australia Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-28-2003 06:01 AM                     Kelsey, Maybe you need one of these... Dolby DMA8 --------------------------------------------------------------- Dolby’s new Digital Media Adapter™ is designed to work with existing cinema processors and sound systems so that all cinemas may provide audio decoding solutions to today'’s alternative, digital programming challenges. A range of digital inputs allows the DMA™ 8 to accept audio from several sources, including servers, disks, tape playback systems, and satellite and cable links and feed it into an existing sound system. The DMA8 also provides a straightforward audio interface into existing cinema processors, is compatible with theatre automation systems, and can support external cinema adapters, such as the Dolby® Digital Adapter (Model DA20), which provides rapid and trouble-free installation without affecting the ability to play back film. Operation of the DMA8 is simple. Front-panel buttons allow a choice between Film mode and Digital Media playback mode. In Film mode, audio is played back from the traditional film source. In Digital Media mode, digital input signals from non-film sources (such as servers) are decoded and then routed into the cinema processor. Current supported audio formats are PCM (up to eight channels) and Dolby Digital, as found on DVD and DTV broadcasts (up to six channels). The DMA8 can be set up via a laptop computer and external software, allowing custom configuration of several audio settings based upon the source material. The benefit with Dolby Digital is the use of metadata within the encoded bitstream. Metadata is information about the program material that is added at the time of content creation. The DMA8 can interpret the metadata and automatically configure the output between different audio input signals, thus reducing the need for external control and simplifying operation. Built for use in today’s diverse entertainment complexes, Dolby’s Digital Media Adapter is an investment that will expand the capabilities of any cinema beyond traditional film applications. ----------------------------------------------------------- Regards Steve Brown  |  IP: Logged Kelsey Crozier Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Registered: Nov 2002 posted 10-28-2003 06:21 AM                     Steven, you read my mind. That is exactly what I was hoping existed. Now that I think about it I even remember reading a pamphlet pimping it a while back. Now what is the cost vs. a yamaha receiver I wonder?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-28-2003 06:49 AM                     Also the creative labs little box is handy to take the output of a dvd and break out the dolby digital to feed the analogue input card of the cp500 http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=2&subcategory=&product=585  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 10-28-2003 06:51 AM                     I was looking at the spec for this thing a few months ago, and also read the manual when Brad posted it. I've never seen a price on it, but I'm pretty sure you could buy a several (maybe a rack full of) domestic receivers for the price of one of these. Have Dolby ever produced anything that was cheap? Also, this thing does a lot more than just decode Consumer Dolby Digital; it handles Dolby E, for example, I have seen the prices for Dolby E only equipment, and they are expensive. Darren, you have one of these in your rack for screen two, don't you? Do you know a price for it?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-28-2003 07:47 AM                     The DMA-8 has a list price of $6000.00 It is not nearly as heavily discounted as other Dolby Cinema gear since it is quasi-pro as well as Cinema. It does indeed handle Dolby-E in addition to Consumer and Professional AC-3. It also had 8-channels worth of D/A conversion. It has several inputs, including a coax AES, RCA S/PDIF, Optical Toslink, and 8-channels of AES on a 25-pin Dsub. The unit will auto switch between the inputs based on a installer choosable priority system. Steve  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 10-28-2003 08:02 AM                     That's something like 4000 pounds, I thought it would be much more than that. Is Dolby gear generally much cheaper over there than it is here? I was guessing that this thing would be something like 5000 to 7000 pounds. In many cases, from subway tickets to pizza if you rub out the dollar sign in a price, and write in a pound sign, you get the price that we have to pay. In other words we pay about 40% more than you do. This even applies to products made here, not that there are many of those now. Of course, you can't make any meaningful comparison or prices, without also comparing earnings, and I don't have any figures there.  |  IP: Logged Jason Whyte Expert Film Handler Posts: 132 From: Victoria, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2002 posted 10-28-2003 10:41 AM                        Kelsey, You have a private message from a local. Jason  |  IP: Logged Mike Miller Film Handler Posts: 6 From: Penticton, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-28-2003 12:27 PM                     Kelsey, is this for our Avalon, or the Galaxy. If its the Avalon, get Kelly to call Me, I have this exact setup in my theatre in Kelowna  |  IP: Logged

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