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Author Topic: Thrown LoTR on Christmas Eve Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 12-24-2003 09:05 PM                     I just need to tell my horror story with LoTR tonight. I started the show at 4pm and everything was normal until after I started a 6:45 show of another film. I went downstairs to check on a few theatres that were letting out soon and I get 3 people come out of LoTR saying that it's burning. I run upstairs and what to my eyes should see. The print (reels 7-10) completely thrown on the floor. No brainwrap or tailwrap. It was wrapped around the motor, and flew under the platter. It was a truly shocking sight. I finally got through the tangled mess, cut the burnt parts out and made only 2 splices to get the rest on the take-up platter. Total time, 1hr 15 mins. My boss walked up and her first words were, "Holy " I just left it on the floor as I wrapped it up on the platter since it threw anyway. Gonna be fun to see how it looks on screen tomorrow though... I just wanted to share my Christmas Horror Story.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-25-2003 12:33 AM                     Happened at one of my locations today also. Same showtime. Tail wrap wasn't taped down. Brad -- I want one of your rim jobs.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-25-2003 01:35 AM                        You need this item to prevent that from happening ever again.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 12-25-2003 01:50 AM                    Brad -- I want one of your rim jobs Oh, and a platter ring as well.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-25-2003 01:55 AM                     Dear Diary: Joe doesn't know what a rim job is.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-25-2003 02:10 AM                  Manny, please post here what a "rim job" is for those of us that don't know. Thanks! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-25-2003 02:14 AM                     It's the exact same device that Joe refers to in his link. Brad's new invention. We should all be so fortunate as to get a rim job for Christmas!  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-25-2003 02:40 AM                  OIC... I guess I was confused because at 1st you said Joe didn't know what it was.... but now you agree with him... I see. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-25-2003 02:53 AM                     Lay off, Phil! A census taker tried to test me once; I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-25-2003 03:04 AM                  WHAAAaaa, whaaaa... Merry Christmas, Manny! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Matthew Bailey Master Film Handler Posts: 461 From: Port Arthur,TX Registered: Sep 2000 posted 12-25-2003 02:06 PM                     Hmmm. OK,howabout a two piece disk to slip under the print which the platter ring fastens to & holds together & have the ring designed to keep both halves from falling out when moving a print? Also a plastic circular cover which fits the ring & also the takeup ring to keep dust & other stuff off the print when it's stored or moved?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-25-2003 02:10 PM                     Matthew, pay attention. The safety ring solves this problem. It's design while it looks simple, took over a year to get it so that it works properly with various platters. Not even Lego would improve on it.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-25-2003 03:02 PM                     Sounds like it had a loose tail or a shifted print. Odds have it you have a A-3, Xetron, or a CFS platter. If you don't have a ring that Brad has invented, you can make a temporary fix. Take about 8 or ten old previews and wrap them inside out with masking tape so the sticky side is out. Then take an old hunk of preview and wrap at least one convolution around the print but don't tape it in any way. Let it loose. The reason being you don't want your newly made preview pucks with inside-out masking tape sticking to the tail of the feature. This involves some work, but it pays off until you can order one of Brad's inventions. I addressed this temporary fix in another thread, so I'll drop it here.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-25-2003 03:47 PM                        Manny, I've been calling a rim job for a year.  |  IP: Logged Chris Hipp Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1462 From: Mesquite, Tx (east of Dallas) Registered: Jul 2003 posted 12-26-2003 12:14 AM                     Another thing I do to help with the tails is to take some leader and cut it to just the right size to fit around the print and put a piece of velco to hold it together. This will help keep the print circular. If you watch your feed platter you will see why your prints get lopsided. When the film sticks together for whatever reason the brain stops and then speeds up and the prints shifts some during acceleration. The wrap on the outside will not keep the print from shifting but it will keep it round. Also, use the above device in conjuction with Stickapoos or Paul's trailer poos and it will be fine. They will fly off if the platter spins too fast. Brad's device is a way better value than poos. Each one costing close to $20 and it takes about 6 or 7 to keep a print this big on the platter, if something went wrong.  |  IP: Logged

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