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Topic: The astro [snipe] at the head of KILL BILL, VOL. 1...
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Brandon Crawford Smith
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From: Mount Olive, AL
Registered: May 2004
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posted 05-24-2004 02:35 PM
I'm new to this site (wonderful site by the way) so just throw popcorn, jujubes, or reel cores at me if I'm posting this in the wrong forum...
The astro dater that follows the Shawscope logo at the head KILL BILL sparked an interest in the lost art form of daters . In my experience, these have become bland announcements created by the corporate offices of the major theater chains. So I've got a few questions for you seasoned projectionists and projection/cinema enthusiasts:
First of all, is "dater" the correct term for these announcements --PSA's, "No Smoking"; "Our Feature Presentation"; and so forth?
Do any companies still produce daters) that are not designed according to the specifications of the major chains. Although I know that www.drive-infilm.com has several of the old daters (including the astro dater) for sale in 35mm, are there better sources for this sort of ephemera?
Does anyone here still splice in their own (personal or their theater's material) daters? What are the general policies of the major chains and independents regarding this practice ?
Any favorite daters? Any resources (book, web, journal, etc.) that I sould investigate that cover daters in any detail?
OK, I know that is a lot to chew and I have no idea why I need this information other than curiosity. In other words, I'm not planning on writing a book or an article on the subject.
Thanks for any replies. I'm sure others on the board might find this information as interesting as I know I will. [ 05-25-2004, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Brandon Crawford Smith ]
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Daniel Alt
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From: Lakewood, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 05-24-2004 09:00 PM
Ours were starting to wear out, so I went looking for just this sort of thing.
Turns out that Cinema Concepts and Filmack have a large number of older snipes still sitting on the shelf. If you call them and ask for a catalog, cc will even send you a videotape. Of course, if you call Filmack, you can talk directly to Mr. Mack, if that floats your boat.
Our film society had a long running tradition of everyone in the theater screaming along with the "Wide Screen Stereo" snipe, until the projector ate it. Everyone was very disappointed. It took three years for someone (Ok, me) to get off their ass and discover that the silly thing was still IN STOCK not more than two states away.
Now it's back, and everyone is happy. I'm sure you can find something to entertain you from one of these two companies, and they don't charge to send out a catalog.
Oh, and we still have a bunch of the astro snipes that match "Kill Bill" sitting in a drawer from God only knows how long ago.
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Thomas Procyk
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From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 05-30-2004 11:26 AM
Tim, I like that clip a lot better. Sounds cleaner, and it's longer, too! The one on the head of Kill Bill has a LOT of negative dirt and scratches at the head and tail, and you can hear the pops at the beginning and end. They probably did this for aesthetics, though.
I wonder, if when the original plan was hatched to exhibit Kill Bill as one film, if they planned to use the "Intermission" snipe between Vol 1 and Vol 2?
Tim, you should sue Miramax. And share the wealth with us poor projectionists!
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