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Author Topic: What is the value of a Simplex Standard? Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-02-2004 11:09 PM                  quote: Lindsay Morris I am probably what Phil would call an "old geezer" Oh PULEEZE! I'm NOT referring to a physical age...but how one thinks... There are old guys that are "young" and there are young guys that are old "geezers"! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 11:10 PM                     Why? Because no one has ever picked up some of the things we do with even 3 full days of training, that's why. Basic straightforward threading with nothing fancy, letting the CA21 automation do 100% of the work, yeah you could most probably pick that up from observing, but not some of the weirdness put on the guys at these places. BTW you do realize I wouldn't have taken your money if we had've bet. I just wanted to see how far you would push the "I can operate anything with virtually no training" bit. I may have a couple of pictures laying around here. Let me look. Will - get your ass down here and find anything wrong with the prints. ANYTHING! I can assure you these theaters have the best prints in the area, hands down, no contest. Film done right is being able to run a print without damage. If that entails running it reel to reel through a Simplex Standard or interlocking it across town between 100 projectors it doesn't matter. Geez, wake up buddy. I think you are starting to qualify for Phil's definition of "geezer".  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 11:16 PM                     This thread really has come alive, hasn't it? Good! Hopefully, Brad and I can get details and BS worked out so we can have our "Fart-Off" contest. I'm going to bed. Have to run a shithouse of movies for a 12 hour shift tomorrow. Goodnight, all.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-02-2004 11:28 PM                     Brad, As I said there is a place for complex booths and thats fine. Paul said.... "I ain't no nincompoop like some think I am." It WAS Paul that helped me figure out how to get the 28" wide Super Highlite console up the 27" wide stairway that had no less than two turns in it !! The guy is pretty dam good at things! Geezer he is not(thats Phils job anyway)... weezer is more like it from years of inhaling those dam cigarettes! Mark  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 11:44 PM                     Yeah Paul, ya gotta admit if nothing else it's been fun! BTW I'll bite, how did you get the 28" consoles up the 27" stairs? I am assuming some form of disassembly was required? Ok I found a few pictures. Any more will have to wait for Adam to finish the coding for daily updates to resume. First off, this particular location is a 7 plex. It is also a dinner theater. Because of the requirements placed upon serving out over 1000 meals an hour on the weekends, the movie schedule and auditorium placement are extremely critical. Because of this, movies can and often do play in a different auditorium on a show by show basis. To make "moving prints" easier, we simply don't move them. Hence, the platter array: All of the platters are lined up in the middle of the booth and each platter can pay out to any projector and takeup from any projector. This makes possible print moves with the snap of the fingers with no risk of damaging the film from dropping it. It also makes interlocking a snap because it is built in to the normal routine of threading. These are what I call the "slide bars". They permit the film to be directed to any projector on either side of the array. The use of self-aligning rollers was mandatory so the rollers would pivot to match the angle of the film sag. This is a typical day, nothing special. Again, a typical day with the films threaded up and running. Nothing weird going on this day. Ok, so here is an example of something that we do which is a little odd. This is a shot of the ceiling during a 3 screen delayed interlock of one print. (Please pardon the poor condition of the ceiling grid, it was falling apart at the time of this picture and a new one was installed just after this picture was taken.) Delayed interlocks are convenient when it is desired to have two or more screens of a movie with different start times, but the theater doesn't want to book multiple prints and be tied into those contracts. This permits us to run say, one screen at 7:00, then a second screen at 7:20, then a third screen at 7:40 which gives the kitchen time to make all the dinners, whereas a normal interlock would wreak havoc on the kitchen getting slaughtered by multiple auditoriums worth of dinner orders all attacking it at once. Funny after all this time no one ever noticed what Darren was standing in front of.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 11:51 PM                     By the way, did I mention what a lazy ass Joe is?  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-03-2004 12:03 AM                  GOD! That pic of Joe is sooo HOT! I'm sure Jen will agree with me on that one! Hubba Hubba! What brand shoes are you wearing, Joe? (And what's really funny is he appears to be looking at the Film-Tech website on the monitor!) >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-03-2004 12:07 AM                        Being lazy kicked ass. Brad was so lazy that he made me be lazy FOR him between sets. Check this out. That's me after I just threaded the Olsen Twins movie for Jason. The Olsen movie is on the middle deck, ready to start. But wait... what's that on the bottom deck? Why it's a print from another auditorium taking up, and that movie is over half way finished! This booth ain't for kids. I fail to see how interlocking is "film done wrong", Will. How is that the case? Notice we don't tuck the tails either. And no suction cups or Bevan-Poo's are present. Uh oh.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-03-2004 12:17 AM                     Josh had that same problem, Joe.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-03-2004 12:28 AM                  So Joe, you appear to be scratching your itchy ass on that reel... Ewwww... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-03-2004 12:38 AM                        Of course Phil has the 69th post!  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-03-2004 01:05 AM                  Of course you ass! I planned that for months! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-03-2004 01:31 AM                     Then, in the middle of the whole shebang a shitty splice breaks and you are up to your ass in 14,000 feet of film. Seems to me if I was to create something like you have, I would have some kind of sensors on each and every machine that would shut the whole damn system down in case something went horse shit which would usually happen on a typical Friday night with full houses. I would presume some other precautions such as a panic button to immediately shut everything down in case of a failure were in place just in case of some problem that could not be corrected while the system was running. And, if I were the projectionist under the interlock condition you posted, you can bet your ass I would be "trooping the line" for the entire run (without my coffee or cigarette breaks) looking for and correcting potential problems just for added insurance. I would not enjoy picking up and straightening out 14,000 feet of film while the management would have to giver all their customers a rain check. I would rather bypass one machine and lose that house than to have a huge mess intertwangled with everything in case a breaker motor feed breaker blew in the 3RD machine of the food chain. As far as your other question was concerned, 1. In the US Navy, we were taught to fit a square peg in a round hole. Actually, that was expected of us Standard Navy-Issue Chiefs. We had to do things like that alot. 2. Yes, some disassembly was required, but not anymore than necessary. 3. The real bitch was those 90-degree corners we had to negotiate on the narrow staircase. Mark, correct me if I am wrong, but we had to have that damn thing on the screen that night.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-03-2004 01:45 AM                     To me "film done wrong" is not interlocking and just ordering multiple prints, or turning customers away due to a sellout. So I guess that would make Will a showman. By showman I mean a one show at a time man. That booth looks like it would be fun to work in! I would just want to see it though. I dont think I am at that level yet. Everything that I know, besides threading, build-up and breakdown, I have taught myself. I have not received any extensive training, but I hope to one day. For now, I do the best that I can. Damn, I wish I was a projectionist!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-03-2004 02:00 AM                        quote: Paul wrote: Seems to me if I was to create something like you have, I would have some kind of sensors on each and every machine that would shut the whole damn system down in case something went horse shit like a typical Friday night with a full house. Like a failsafe? Yup. There is one on each machine, amazingly. quote: Paul also wrote: I would presume some other precautions such as a panic button to immediatelky shut everything down in case of a failure, mechanical or otherwise in event of some problem that could not be corrected while the system was running. There is a panic button. Except it is generally referred to as a "stop" button. On the CA21 I believe it is labeled as "EXIT" or something asinine, though. Those kooky Australians never get it right.  |  IP: Logged

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