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Topic: Seeking Info On FP-20
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Stephen Furley
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Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-06-2004 01:40 PM
This is one of the machines at the Loew's:
I've never seen that design of lamphouse table before, and it has an interlock motor, but the rest of the mechanical parts look pretty standard for a lateish FP-20. Something else that is a bit odd, the take-up will obviously only take a 2000 foot spool, but the feed spindle is at the very top of the column, and it's not a short column version. The two machines are not quite identical, and one has a blanked-off position for a 6000 foot spool, while the other (this one) does not. At least one machine has about four or five blanked-off top spindle positions, maybe designed to be equipped for double head working, with 1000 foot rolls of mag?
I hope to get back o see the Loew's, and the Lafayette, Suffern, and maybe a couple of other places, again next year.
Philips/Kinoton have always tended to produce many variations of the standard machines, with lots of options available. I've seen many of them, and almost no two are identical.
Their equipment was also marketed under many names, their flashbulbs were sold in the U.S.A. as 'Amplex', and their video recorders in some parts of the world in the late '60s - early '70s as 'Peto-Scott' (I'm not sure if that had one 't', or two). I'm not sure where the 'Norelco' name came from.
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Larry Shaw
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From: Boston, MA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-13-2004 09:28 PM
Norelco was a wholly owned subsiduary of Philips that distributed certian Philips products in North America.
Kinoton's story is summarized nicely by Richard. For more see http://www.kinotonamerica.com/company/index.asp . Kinotone, Inc was a North American distribution division of Kinoton GmbH, which was later owned by US interests when Kinoton GmbH chose not to operate its own N. A. offices. Kinotone has been out of business for many years although some folks keep using the name.
The Philips or Kinoton machines have only been sold in N. A. as Philips, Norelco, Kinoton or Kinotone. That said, some buyers may put their own labels on after they purchase the machines, like MTE.
To further confise the PR-135 story, The early ones were in fact standard FP-20's that MTE bought whole and reworked. As time went buy they started copying more and more of philips' parts until the last ones were all MTE made, although some parts were essentially identical, for example the lens holder.
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