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Jeff Knoll
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From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada
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I was able to purchase a bunch of new/old stock 1KW Hanovia bulbs (type 977B0010) for real cheap. They are all sealed in their boxes and new - well not really "new" but unused/unopened and 11 years old (they were apparently manufactured in 1993).

My concern is that they do look smaller (the envelope does - they are the same length) than the Osram ones we are using now. There are no specs in the boxes and I cannot find anything on the net. Does anybody have experience with these bulbs? Can I use these in the place of an Osram 1000W/HS??

Thanks!

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Aaron Sisemore
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If they are the same wattage and fit the same way physically, then they should work fine.

The envelope size shouldn't matter if the rest of the mechanical dimensions match.

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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Be careful with these, Hanovia bulbs weren't the best quality and prone to failure. (No ignite/exploding) Had some locations in late 80's toss 'em because of the problems.

Someone here with more experience with them recently could tell if that vintage was better/worse.

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Dean Kollet
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was 1993 a Vintage year...I don't recall

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Steve Guttag
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Hanovia lamps were not the same size dimensionally as other lamps of the same wattage. The stems were different diameters and the lengths were different. As I recall, the 1KW lamp was particularly small on all dimensions for 1KW lamps. However, that particular lamp was one of their best.

Steve

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Dennis J. Losco
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The lamp you are questioning is a Mercury Xenon lamp,not a straight Xenon lamp . Do not use this in your projector as a replacement for the Osram 1000WHS.

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Jeff Knoll
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Wow - that is a true "range" of opinion!

What is the difference between a mercury xenon lamp and a straight xenon one?

Thanks for all the replies!

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Dennis J. Losco
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The difference is in the spectrum.

A xenon lamp produces wavelengths in the visible spectrum close to daylight. A mercury-xenon lamp produces wavelengths in the ultraviolet spectrum. A xenon lamp also has a smaller and higher intensity hot spot than a Mercury-Xenon lamp.

Mercury lamps are used in UV curing and other scientific applications.

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Gordon McLeod
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Also is not the rectifier current limiting and ignition requirements diferrent between a xenon and a mercury xenon

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Jeff Knoll
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Odd, this is identified on the box as a "theatre bulb" - not an industrial/scientific product.

The operating current is stated as 28.5A and the operating voltage is at at 36.0V

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Gordon McLeod
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"he operating current is stated as 28.5A and the operating voltage is at at 36.0V"
that sounds very wrong are you sure
a 1K xenon is normally 25v and 40amps

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Andrew Shingleton
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The specs for the Osram XBO 1000W/HS OFR we're currently running is 19V with a rated current of 50A (current control range of 30 - 55A).

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Dan Lyons
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What kind of theatre is running 1k lamps?! [uhoh]

1k is great for a home screening room with a small screen, but theatrical? What size screens do you guys have?

danny

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Matthew Jaro
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Even in my screening room, I run 1.6 KW lamps

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Jeff Knoll
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We run 1600 watts in 3 of our four screens. We use 1KW in the three smallest - 23ft throw.

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