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Author Topic: Are Cinemeccanica's expensive machines? Andrew McCrea Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 645 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-24-2004 10:38 AM                        So... are they? How do the pedestal, two-peice (Vic 5 and 8) ones compare price wise to other projector makes? Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 08-24-2004 11:21 AM                     The 8 is an expensive machine, but you get a lot of bang for your buck, remember it's really a 35/70mm projector, so cost wise is comparable with other 35/70s. The 5 is probably cost wise about the same as other common machines, Century, Kinoton etc. It's a very competitive market, he who undercuts his competitor by £0.02 may well win!  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-24-2004 11:46 AM                     In ny experiences, parts for Simplexes and Centurys are less expensive than Cinemeccanicas... Be glad you didn't say 'Bauer', 'Kinoton', or 'Norelco' -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 08-24-2004 11:54 AM                    (W * J * F)/C where W = Weave expressed as % of image width shift frame to frame J = Jump expressed as % of image height shift frame to frame F = number of frames shown C = installed cost of projector Now who gives you the most bang for the buck?  |  IP: Logged Andrew McCrea Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 645 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-24-2004 01:58 PM                        Bauer's aren't good? One of our nicest movie palaces had two Bauer U2 35/70 machines with carbons... I don't know what kind of lamphouse though... Do Cinemeccanica's re-sell for a decent price like other projectors? A salesman from their office once told me that buying direct from them would be VERY expensive.  |  IP: Logged Bill Langfield Master Film Handler Posts: 280 From: Prospect, NSW, Australia Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-24-2004 02:52 PM                        Are Cinemeccanica's expensive machines? Hmmm, only Australians will get this little quiz. Lets say there are two big Cinema chains. One shops at K-Mart, the other shops at Myer. One buys Vics, other buys Christies. Which chain shops at K-Mart? Hint: I now work for the one that shops at Myer, not the one that shops at Kmart.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-24-2004 03:30 PM                     quote: Andrew McCrea Bauer's aren't good? One of our nicest movie palaces had two Bauer U2 35/70 machines with carbons... I wasn't saying that Bauers aren't good, just that parts for them (from Kinoton, natch) are incredibly expensive compared to a Simplex, Century, or Christie. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-24-2004 07:46 PM                        All parts for the different german's are most expensive, but on the other hand (knock on wood) - You seldom need any ! (at least for the old projectors) The only sprockets, I've had to change on my two DP70's, since I brought them back in 1974, is the intermittent - the others sat on the machines when they arrived - and I guess, they are the originals from 1960 (yeah - 44 years, 4-5 shows a day ), still making no noise and no tear on films. Pressure bands maybe once every five years - the plast things on the FP30 were shifted within the first year... For the Bauer U2 Yu may not be able to get any parts, unless You buy a prjector somewhere for scrap, but still, the main problem will be to tear down the whole projector to change even the smallest screw - and THAT will cost You, if You are not doing it Yourself !  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-24-2004 09:59 PM                     In Canada cinemecanica v5 sells for about the same price as a simplex all depending on the exchange rates Personally i would prefer the vic 5 to a simplex in the long run  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-24-2004 11:31 PM                        The reason for the Bauer parts being as expensive as they are is that indeed you very rarely have to change any of them. In Germany, there are many of these machines still running, but still there is no big market for parts because they are just so precisely and solidly manufactured. I think it is probably the most solid projector I have seen. You just need tracks and a gun, then you can use them as a tank.  |  IP: Logged Ron Keillor Expert Film Handler Posts: 166 From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2003 posted 08-25-2004 12:08 AM                     With the closure last month and demolition of the Pinetree 6 in Coquitlam (B.C.), there should be six used Vic-5's (maybe one -6?) around somewhere looking for a home. Your local Cinematronics or Best Theatre Supply rep might be able to locate a contact for you (and a quote in $Cdn.).  |  IP: Logged Mike Fitzgerald Expert Film Handler Posts: 224 From: Castle Hayne, NC, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 08-25-2004 12:13 AM                     I agree the Bauer are very well built. Parts have always been expensive so that is one of the reasons why I try and stockpile any and all parts I can find for my U-2. I have 5 heads, 2 bases, and many spare parts and always looking for more. I am looking for 2 more bases if anyone out there has a pair they want to part with.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-25-2004 01:03 AM                        I could point you to sources in Germany but I guess for the bases the shipping costs would be too prohibitive.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-25-2004 09:33 AM                     The Bauer U-2 is one of the best projectors ever made, probably the second or third best(except for the mass of unnecessary relays in the base). Phillips DP-70 is of course the best. Shakeamecanica'a are VERY expensive here in the States and the parts are ultra expensive. They don't call them Shakeamecanica down here because they are well liked...... General Enema was the last big customer for them in the states amnd that was in the 80's! Mark  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-25-2004 09:38 AM                        Where does one get Cinemeccanica parts? I sent mail to Jack Roe USA, but never got a reply. I need the adjustment tool for Cinemeccanica lamphouses. It's the thing that looks like a tube with two slots cut out of one end. Is this a standard part? I couldn't find anything like it at any of several hardware stores. Maybe Grainger has them, but I have no idea what to look under in their catalog for something like this.  |  IP: Logged

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