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Author Topic: Mr. 3000 Cyan Track.... Got to wonder how many got caught without red Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2004 06:37 PM                     I've got to wonder how many theatre owners/operators got caught with their pants down tonight with the opening of this film.....? The print here in Jackson, WY. is very cyan and to my ears sounded just fine with no noticable difference between it and the previews that ran before hand. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 09-17-2004 08:11 PM                    Very cyan.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 09-17-2004 08:55 PM                        quote: Steve Kraus was the last to post Very cyan. It all depends on what wavelength you are on!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2004 10:53 PM                     quote: It all depends on what wavelength you are on! Well the air here is definately ALOT cleaner than most places so there are probably more wavelengths of light reaching the ground..... so yes.... It looks very cyan to me... .... does it not look very cyan to you ? Mark  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2004 11:13 PM                        We were in Jackson Hole the week after Labor Day...dittoes on the clean air. (Not that it's dirty where we live either, but JH has that awesome evergreen addition.)  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-18-2004 06:27 PM                     Yea, Jackson is ALOT of fun. I like the service trips up there as all the shows start by 4PM so I'm ususally done and out by 3:30 to give them time to get the booth readied. After that time I'm usually out somewhere hiking and or photographing. It got cold for a couple of days but warmed up the last few days I was there... Over the last two weeks there I overhauled EVERY projector in town(yes literally 7) plus installed single blade conversions onto some first generation P35's that are pretty odd inside. I will post a pix if one of its innards later to see if anyone else has any like these... Interestingly the P35's are 11 years old and had most of the original bearings in them.... yes they sounded like cement mixers but now after only 100 plus bearings they just purr right along and one can actually talk to another person whilst standing in the booth again. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Barry Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 203 From: Newington, CT USA Registered: Jul 2002 posted 09-18-2004 09:36 PM                        I've been meaning to ask about this since I received the notice in a can a couple months ago. We have white readers and thus these tracks would be undesireable in our theater so I was wondering if anyone could guesstimate how much replacing these two readers would cost, or if it's something a good projectionist, not technician, could install. Also, is BV the only company doing this or are there others I should ask before booking the film? Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-18-2004 10:20 PM                     Barry, Its not something that you can install your self unless you go with the JAX Light..... which is less desirable in itself. There is not much choice but to convert over to red light of some sort. It will take a technician with the right equipment to properly install a red scanner system. This is going to be industry wide sooner than you might think. For now you can stay white light if you don't want to play any Disney, or Touchphone filums. Next up to switch over I believe is MGM. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 09-18-2004 10:21 PM                        So far, Disney, MGM, and Miramax have announced plans to convert to cyan dye analog tracks, and Ted Costas of Dolby who works closely with distributors expects more to announce by ShowEast in October. More information and links are on the dye tracks website: http://www.dyetracks.org  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-19-2004 12:36 AM                     quote: I was wondering if anyone could guesstimate how much replacing these two readers would cost, or if it's something a good projectionist, not technician, could install. Also, is BV the only company doing this or are there others I should ask before booking the film? Thanks! Component Engineering readers ordered from most dealers cost approximately US$500 each. Prices from other dealers or brands may be more or less , YMMV. As john mentioned, BV, Miramax, MGM and certain DreamWorks titles (Woody Allen) are going all-cyan. -Aaron [ 09-20-2004, 12:47 AM: Message edited by: Aaron Sisemore ]  |  IP: Logged Barry Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 203 From: Newington, CT USA Registered: Jul 2002 posted 09-19-2004 09:43 PM                        Thanks guys, will look into it and be sure to ask when booking, guess I should have tried to stay more in the "know" while not working at a theater over the past 2 years. I figured it would be something that would require proper equipment for setup, just thought I'd ask instead of poking around in the sound head trying to figure it out and shut us down. Thanks again! P.S. John, you know you have some "film done wrong" right there....on your chin.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-19-2004 10:12 PM                     So Aaron, You're saying that Jack Roe is also acting as a dealer selling theatre equipment? Thats a bit tacky for a manufacturer to be doing IMHO. I wonder how many others are aware of that one.....? Mark  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-20-2004 12:58 AM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen So Aaron, You're saying that Jack Roe is also acting as a dealer selling theatre equipment? Mark, we bought the readers from Dick Niccum at LIT (who does deal in [mostly used] cinema equipment as well as their own new products). The Jack Roe reference was a mistake, I was thinking of something else regarding JRUSA. Anyways? JR sells Cinemeccanica equipment (I believe they are now the official US distributor for Cinemeccanica), and CIR splicers, and other booth supplies, etc... be back in a week! -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-20-2004 09:00 AM                     Mark that is no different than CPI and Marble Co that manufactured and imported/distributed supplies and equipment and also sold direct (as do any manufacturer to a large circuit)  |  IP: Logged Ted Costas Expert Film Handler Posts: 119 From: Hollywood, CA, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 09-20-2004 12:35 PM                     It's Monday morning, after the opening weekend of "Mr.3000", and thus far, we have only one reported problem. I'm awaiting final details, but after speaking with Disney this morning, there was just a single theatre that got the movie that had infra-red readers... yes, infra-red. This is the worst possible scenario, no sound. But, it was the only problem in a 100% cyan release, of a film that was number two at the box office. How many prints? I don't know the exact amount, but they did title the film, "Mr.3000"... I would think that you'd be safe guestimating that as the total number of prints manufactured for this release, so far. With one problem reported. Just one. That, my good friends, is a home run! If any of you are aware of any other problems, please let me know. All the best, Ted  |  IP: Logged

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