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Topic: What happened to 2 reels per movie cans?
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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted 02-14-2005 02:06 AM
quote: Aaron Sisemore The main reason the went away: They SUCKED
TRUE!
for us short people who could just barely get them damned things off the floor doing straight lifting them, let alone trying to get those containers upstairs.
Those big flanges hugging on to those 4inch cores was a trememdous joke.
Then the final straw trying to mount those full reels on MUTs with vertical spindles-trying to aim for the main spindle and dog spindle.
Even the delivery guys hated those containers -
Don't miss them at all.
WEA and NL has been smoking something to try these new things..
Hey, while on the topic of oddities: Remember when FOX came out with those plastic corregated boxes that you had to take a wrap to to close them?
These boxes were just the simple slip over boxes where you had to strap them closed with that red wrap, and the wrap was a joke in itself.
Then FOX came out with the now present plastic corregated fold-down box that almost takes a genius on how to interfold the flaps down. Then the flaps, after being folded down, still love to fly open due to the massive weight.
Still, these boxes are a pain in the ass at times, esp, with the 7 reel variety to haul up the stairs.
-Monte
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 02-14-2005 08:39 AM
Scott, aver here the vast majority of films come in one container, until recently a cardboard box. A few years ago a new plastic one was tried, which took four cans I think, so two boxes were needed. In the last few months a new plastic box has come into use, which which will take at least seven cans, I had 'All About Eve' arrive that way on Friday, and I think it would take at least one, possibly two more cans. I'll take a picture of one of these next time I do a projection shift. When I first saw these, I liked them, but I've since found a problem.
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 02-14-2005 11:08 AM
No, not those things. I remembered that it was two cans to each slot, but I wasn't sure how many slots. I only ever saw a couple of the things.
Recently the prints have been coming in plastic cases, similar to the cardboard boxes, with the edges turned over metal rods, and the corners reinforced. The lid is attached to the box by a strong fabric strap, with a snap-in plastic buckle. You then pull the strap tight, and it's held in place across the top of the box by velcro. There's a pocket on the side for the label, which you remove and insert with the other side showing for return.
There's a large metal handle on two opposite sides, so you can either carry it in front of you with two hands, like a traditional box, or carry it vertically in one hand, like a suitcase.
The Delux Film Services ones are red, and somebody else's are blue. They're not unlike the BFI blue plastic boxes, but with carrying handles, and the permanent strap and buckle, father than being fastened with plastic strapping, which you have to cut off, and don't have the machine to replace, so you have to tie the thing up with string, or parcel tape.
The two problems I've found are that the plastic is already splitting along the edges of some of the lids, and the metal inside the edges gets bent, so the lids don't fit; a good kick usually puts that right!
The cans seem to be getting worse by the month. Some of them are not just cracked, but literally falling apart, even fairly new ones. They're obviously only designed to be used for one film, but they're not even managing that. The ones which the BFI use, we had a lovely, fairly new, polyester print of 'Sunset Boulevard' in for yesterday, seem much better made. I've still not seen any of the cans with the spigot to hold the core in place. Cans like this, made of the same material as the BFI ones, would be ideal. With nothing less than four inch cores.
I think there's also a good case for new films to be made with longer reels. I'm not sure if you could get 3000 feet in a standard can with polyester, but you could certainly get well over 2000. You can get 3000 feet in typical 2000 foot spoolboxes, for the few places which still have them. The undersized roll of polyester, in a standard size can certainly isn't a good idea.
How are 70mm prints being transported these days?
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