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Topic: Technicolor Dye Transfer printing.
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Dan Lyons
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 698
From: Seal Beach, CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 05-15-2005 02:45 AM
bump!!! lets take this topic in a new direction!
Having just looked through the long out of print book "Glorious Technicolor" today, a question came to mind.
I know that for a short time some new IB prints were made such as "gone with the wind", "OZ", "apocolypse now redux","pearl harbour", etc.
Does anyone have a list of all the titles that were printed with the new, but now defunct, dye transfer line? How many prints of each title were made? It would be nifty, and dorky, to have the info so I could paste it into my book.
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William Hooper
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-16-2005 03:25 AM
Concerning Oz, Scott Norwood posted this information to rec.arts.movies.tech 11/9/1998:
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See below. This is reposted from rec.arts.movies.current-films. I have no idea about the accuracy of the list.
-- Scott Norwood: snorw...@nyx.net, snorw...@redballoon.net, sen...@mail.wm.edu Cool Home Page: http://www.redballoon.net/ Lame Quote: Penguins? In Snack Canyon?
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From dhi...@email.com Sun Nov 8 20:50:22 In article <Pine.GSO.4.05.9811061322070.20255-100...@paladin.cc.emory.edu>, Jason Richard Edgecombe <jedg...@emory.edu> wrote:
> I read today that WIZARD OF OZ is being distributed in both Eastmancolor > and 3-strip Technicolor prints. If i'm going to see it, i'd really like > to see it in a theater with a Technicolor print. Does anyone know of a > way to find out what theaters might be showing them? I haven't checked > today's paper, but I checked the website and they didn't seem to make any > mention of it. Or, if anyone knows of a theater in the Atlanta area > showing one, please speak up. Reply a copy via email, too, please. > Thanks. > jason.
To answer Jason's question---the following was written by a guy named Scott Schechter. He has just co-produced a Judy Garland CD, and he seems to be pretty knowlegeable about both Garland and "Oz". Anyway, he posted this in the Judy Garland discussion group---it answer's Jason's question pretty well.
Dave
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Thought everyone would like to know which theatres accross the country will be showing the superior DYE TRANSFER prints of OZ (Only 50 prints were made; some are being held as "back-up" prints.) Here they are :
Boston area : W.Newton Cinema, Boston Cinema 140, New Bedford Fine Arts, Acton IOKA, Portsmouth
New York : Astor Plaza, New York, NY Lincoln Square, New York, NY
New Jersey : Berkeley, New Jersey
Washington, DC area : Uptown, Washington Downtown Mall, Charlottesville, VA Senator, Baltimore Regal Ridge, Richmond, VA Greenbelt, Greenbelt, MD Berkeley, Martinsburg, WV
New Orleans area : Palace, Harahan Plaza, Pasagoula
Chicago area : Northbrook Court, Yorktown Marcus, Addison Marcus, Orland Park Gurnee, Gurneee Western Heights, Chicago
Des Moines area : Paramount, Ankeny
Indianapolis : Clearwater
Minneapolis : Mall of the Americas
Denver : Greenwood, Englewood
Los Angeles : Century City GCC, Sherman Oaks National, Westwood Chinese, Hollywood Uinversal, Universal City GCC, South Bay
San Francisco area : Colfax, Colfax Sieraa, Grass Valley Lark, Larkspur Southland, Hayward Met, Oakhurst Signature, Visalia Broadway, Ureka Grand Lake, Oakland The Oaks, Berkeley Raven, Healdsburg
Seattle : The Pacific Place, Seattle Metro, Seattle
Montreal : Loews, Montreal
Toronto : Uptown, Toronto
Vancouver : Centre, Vancouver
>From the LA Times October 24th piece on OZ :
"Technicolor President Ron Jarvis says there's no substitute for going back to the original negative. 'It's incredible what we've been able to extract >from the negatives,' he says. 'And with improved dyes and (film) stocks, we
can make 'Oz' look like it's never looked before. I wish we could've done 'Gone With The Wind' this way. If they'll let me, I'd still like to go back and do it right.
Of course getting here has required some very meticulous registration correction that we can only do because we have the records,' Jarvis adds. 'Those negatives have to be lined up just right, shot by shot. There was misregistration in the camera and misregistration due to shrinkage over the years. It won't be perfect. But we can correct most of it.' About the only complaint about this ultimate OZ is that there's a bit too much contrast in the brighter scenes. Even so, the splashy use of color looks like eye candy.
Unfortunately, few moviegoers will be seeing OZ in it's original Technicolor glory or in it's proper 1.33:1 aspect ratio. That's because of the accelerated release schedule (from December 25th, to November 6th), and extremely large print order (for 1,835 theatres), as well as the fact that most multiplexes don't want to be bothered renting special lenses or making correct aperture plates.
As a result, Technicolor was asked to make two different sets of prints : about 1,800 standard color compositives for conventional multiplexes, and about 50 superior dye transfers for special theaters (including the Mann Chinese in Hollywood), recalling the old road-show engagements of the 50's and 60's. That's not to say the color positives won't be superb. They'll look just fine, thanks to entire pre-fitting done by Technicolor. Still, they won't have the vibrancy, the 3D-like sharpness or velvety blacks of dye transfer. Nor will the color positives be shown unadulterated. 'We're going to shrink the image slightly so most theaters can play it using a 1.85 lens.' 'But you won't lose any actual picture information.' This is preferable to the tortuous process used on 'Gone With The Wind,' which actually degraded the image quality."
"According to Aljean Harmetz, author of 'The Making Of The Wizard Of Oz,' to be reprinted next month by Hyperion, the landmark fantasy has earned approximately $300 million in its nearly 60-year history, including $225 million in home sales over the last 10 years. (By comparison, it's $5.4 million in theatrical revenues seems meager, until adjusted for inflation, which makes it a much more impressive $219 million.) To be a success (this release), the film needs to do at least $25 million at the box office."
Scott Schechter
The "New Orleans Area" theatre "Plaza, Pascagoula", was in a twin in Pascagoula, MS, about 90 minutes from New Orleans. I can confirm that it had one of the IB prints, & was running it in a building with typical MS coast post-hurricane Georges destruction: ceiling tiles gone, dripping water from the roof being caught in huge Rubbermaid garbage cans distributed as needed in the house, etc. Georges had been through about a month before, but rebuilding & repairs for the whole area were delayed an incredibly long time due to 2 factors: it rained heavily & often for weeks aterwards, & also a HUGE new casino being built in Biloxi was far behind schedule & was scooping up with better wage offers all the itinerant contractors that come in after a hurricane to do opportunistic work.
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