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Topic: Edward Scissorhands 70mm Mag. sound format
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Phillip Grace
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 164
From: ACMI. Melbourne. Australia.
Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 06-03-2005 05:37 AM
Thanks guys for the help. Much appreciated.
We've just screened the last spool of our print, and it looks and sounds pretty good in the theatre. The result with Dolby A noise reduction is very pleasing. I couldn't see any sub-bass signal, however, and am wondering whether it is actually present on the film. The season of "Edward Scissorhands" will be our first run with magnetic sound. Prior to this we've had some DTS on 5-perf and 8-perf programs. The projector is a Kinoton MP 75E, with a 6-track cluster only, and the magnetic sound processing is via a Panastereo CSP 4600. The projector is fitted with soundheads for DTS, 70mm Magnetic, SDDS, SR-D and Analogue, so threading it is definitely not for the faint-hearted. We could use some 70mm Mag. test films, if anyone knows of a source for them. Fortunately our service company found some in the back of a cupboard to use to set up the system initially.
Best regards. Phil.
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Michael Coate
Phenomenal Film Handler
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Posts: 1904
From: Los Angeles, California
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 06-22-2005 10:23 AM
quote: Phillip Grace I couldn't see any sub-bass signal
That's because there isn't any! As I understand it, the decision to be released in digital and 70mm-mag was made late in post-production after the film had already been mixed in a simple 4-track Left-Center-Right-Surround layout. There was no low frequency/"baby boom" or separate left-right surround content.
The mix on the DVD is a discrete "4.0" which appears to mirror the original mix. Amusingly, when I was with Widescreen Review we received some letters and emails from readers who remembered the movie had been released in 70mm and, assuming all 70mm presentations have six channels of audio content, were pissed off about the "wrong" sound mix and wanted Fox to recall the discs and fix the "mistake"! I think we may have even printed one of the letters and reply. Anyway, in order to deal with the letters I contacted some folks who had worked on the film including someone who dealt with the mastering for the Cinema Digital Sound release, and everyone remembered the mix not having LFE or split surrounds.
quote: David Stambaugh I would love to see that movie in 70mm mag.
Picture quality on this one is so-so, and not an aggressive mix in terms of loud, in-your-face sound effects which too many folks, annoyingly, think is what makes a good soundtrack. The highlight for me in terms of this movie's sound was the Danny Elfman score, which sounded fantastic in either the CDS or mag presentations. I didn't actually see this movie in 70mm until the American Cinematheque ran it a few years ago as part of their semi-annual 70mm fests. In its first-run, I saw it at the Avco Westwood on opening night expecting to see a 70mm-Cinema Digital Sound presentation but instead experienced what turned out to be the U.S. public premiere of digital sound sourced from a 35mm print.
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