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Barry Floyd
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 06-20-2005 12:31 PM      Profile for Barry Floyd   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Floyd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I can't figure this platter out. By the color and the fan-blade like supports under the decks, it looks like a STRONG, but the "T-shaped" column support legs threw me off. My existing STRONG AP3 has "V-shaped" legs on the bottom. Also, where are the drive motors on this thing? By the looks of it they've been stripped off, or maybe their just not visible from this angle.

Looking at buying this at a local Auction this week, and wanted to know what it was.

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 06-20-2005 12:58 PM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Look like either an early Potts, BALCO, or XeTron. (all basically the same platter save for some cosmetic differences, and the placement of the motors on the XeTron version).

The MUT does look like the XeTron one though (reels go on the side, like a Christie MUT)

EDIT: After closer examination, I am pretty sure it is the XeTron platter: The motors are very similar to the ones used in the current NeuTronic platter, but are mounted in between the tree and the disc (you can see them if you look closely at the pic) The majority of the other parts used on these are the same as the early Potts/Balco platters.

-Aaron

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Richard Fowler
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From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
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 - posted 06-20-2005 01:03 PM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
TECO..........

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 06-20-2005 01:34 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If its a TECO or Neurotic, then pass on it. Junk!

Mark

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Gregory N. Jones
Film Handler

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From: Newtown, CT, USA
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 - posted 06-20-2005 02:30 PM      Profile for Gregory N. Jones   Author's Homepage   Email Gregory N. Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Barry,

Nope, not an XNR or Neutronic (or as Mark says Neurotic platter). It looks very similiar to our early XNR platters but they had "V" shaped legs, trolley assembly was on the bottom rear of mast and the control assemblies were mounted directly under the platter disc's on the side of the support arms.

I believe it is a very early Pott's platter.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 06-20-2005 03:31 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Greg,

If you blow the photo up it looks like neither an early XNR nor an early Potts.... Potts(and pans)didn't have that style MUT either... this ones way too fancy. Look at that funky take up speed control lever at the bottom right side ofthe column...... Motors are also mounted on the column in Neumade fashion......

Looks ome made to me....... Those seats on the floor are the better deal at that location though......

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Ken Layton
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 - posted 06-20-2005 05:41 PM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I almost want to say Xetron also.

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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 - posted 06-20-2005 07:58 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
That's the same platter/mut shown in the Pines Theatre Photo Tour and identified as a TECO.

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 06-20-2005 09:42 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Adam is correct. It is a TECO....certainly not the worst platter made...most parts available at Grainger. Certain of our customers have this platter and have had good results. Probably not as good as your Potts/Strong.

Louis/Hadden

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Randy Stankey
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[Mad] Grumble! Grumble! Grumble! [Mad]

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Adam Fraser
Master Film Handler

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From: Houghton Lake, MI, USA
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 - posted 06-20-2005 09:57 PM      Profile for Adam Fraser   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Fraser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yep, thats a TECO, it has worked well for us for about 25 years with no major problems so I guess they aren't so bad. Very simple design, all the boards look to be bench made and not on an assembly line.

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Barry Floyd
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 - posted 06-21-2005 06:08 PM      Profile for Barry Floyd   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Floyd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You guys were right. Went and looked at the auction items today. TECO platter, Ballantyne Pro 35 projector & a Christie Console - all to be sold as one lot.

The water-logged ceiling tiles above the platter had collapsed onto the top deck and none of the rollers turned very freely at all. I think I'm gonna pass on this one.

So I guess I'm still looking for a 3 deck platter - Strong AP3 or equivalent.

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 06-23-2005 03:43 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have had very little trouble from the Tecco Platters there are about 30 of them up here that I know of
The painted platter decks did have some static issues though
Also I saw someone erase a 4track mag print on one with the little magnet that is on the payout arm

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 06-24-2005 03:42 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Gordon McLeod
The painted platter decks did have some static issues though

For platters with non-conductive surfaces that don't provide a good path to ground to drain static buildup on the print, treat the platter surface and any plastic rollers with a topical conductive antistat like "Static Guard", "Endust for Electronics", "Staticide", etc. These compounds usually contain quaternary ammonium salts, which are conductive in normal ranges of relative humidity.

Conductive "platter mats" are also available, which can also help film laps not stick.

The platter frame generally has a good ground connection through normal electrical grounding, but an additional ground connection to the frame can sometimes help.

Although Kodak VISION Color Print Film has a transparent conductive layer on the back side to help control static, it does need a path to ground to be most effective.

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