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Author Topic: Kelmar newbie - Rewinding through Kelmar cleaner? Matthew Taylor Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: Essex, UK Registered: Mar 2004 posted 11-09-2005 10:46 AM                     I have just acquired a Kelmar film cleaning machine. Can you rewind at speed through this machine or will there be too much friction?  |  IP: Logged John Walsh Film God Posts: 2490 From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way Registered: Oct 1999 posted 11-09-2005 11:26 AM                     Yes, but you should go very slow - not much faster than regular film projection speed. Use film guard. The Kelmar cleaner is a useful tool, but remember 'real' film cleaning machines cost $30-$40K, and a Kelmar costs about $350, so be aware  |  IP: Logged Matthew Taylor Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: Essex, UK Registered: Mar 2004 posted 11-09-2005 12:09 PM                     Probably another dumb question but are the media pads one-use only or can you use them a few times?  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 11-09-2005 12:53 PM                     This question was asked and previously answered on this thread: High Speed FilmGuarding  |  IP: Logged Thomas Dieter Expert Film Handler Posts: 234 From: Yakima, WA Registered: Jun 2004 posted 11-09-2005 07:57 PM                     Okay, John Walsh made me ask this. Does anyone have a picture of what a Film Cleaner looks like. I have a Kelmar Media Cleaner, but with the mentioning of these 30K dollar cleaners, I want to know if anyone has seen on, and do you have pictures.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-09-2005 08:11 PM                  I've worked many years with a Lipsner-Smith ultrasonic film cleaner. Here ya go Tom:  |  IP: Logged Matthew Taylor Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: Essex, UK Registered: Mar 2004 posted 11-10-2005 10:37 AM                     So are the media rolls single-use only or can they be used several times?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-10-2005 10:45 AM                     If you use them with FilmGuard you can reuse them multiple times. If you use them without, they are a one-time-only thing or you risk scratching your film.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 11-10-2005 04:10 PM                        If dry media picks up abrasive dirt, it becomes "sandpaper". I have seen prints literally scratched from head to tail with this type of cleaner.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-10-2005 10:37 PM                     Also not all media is created the same. Some brands are more abrasive than others. For the best performace with the least chance of scratching, ask for "Film-Tech" or "Kelmar white" media from your dealer. Other media on the market is more abrasive (some is VERY abrasive) and will scratch your film.  |  IP: Logged Matthew Taylor Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: Essex, UK Registered: Mar 2004 posted 11-11-2005 07:58 AM                     Brad, who is the UK distributor for Film-Tech pads, is it Jack-Roe?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-11-2005 04:07 PM                     Yes, Jack Roe is the exclusive UK distibutor, although there are other dealers in the US that will export to the UK if needed for whatever reason. (BTW, I'm not trying to plug our product specifically...like I said the Kelmar white pads are also very good quality. Of course, those don't come with the plastic coupling cores, but still the quality of the media is good)  |  IP: Logged Matthew Taylor Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: Essex, UK Registered: Mar 2004 posted 11-12-2005 03:14 PM                     Ok...one more stupid question...can you reverse the media and use the clean side of the used roll once one side has been finished? (I'm determined to get my money's worth our of these rolls!)  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-12-2005 04:29 PM                     If using them with FG then there really is no reason to flip the sides. If running media dry, assuming there is only A VERY SMALL AMOUNT dirt picked up the first time (which is generally the case when trying to clean a film "dry"), then yeah you can flip them over. Just bear in mind that the front side touches the back side when it's rolled up, so there had better be hardly any trace of dirt to pull this off without scratching your film.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 05-18-2008 03:38 AM                 It has been 917 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged

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