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Author Topic: wierd thing that happened Will Hooks Film Handler Posts: 1 From: Bay Point, CA Registered: Dec 2005 posted 01-03-2006 01:31 AM                     Hi, maybe you guys could give me some insight into what might of happened one night: So, I was working up in the booth about one week ago when the weirdest thing happened to me. I had just started a projector and all was well until about five minutes after starting it. It mysteriously stopped as if the print had run through completely. There was plenty of tension throughout the film path so the payout, takeup and failsafe arms were fine. No alarms had gone off either. I proceeded to start it up again, then about 10 minutes later it once again stopped (same as the first time). So I started it up again for a third time. This time the print ran through fine to the end. My theater uses the Christie SLC lamphouse, AW-3 platters, and P35GPS projectors. What could have happened? I'm almost convinced that there are spirits and ghosts haunting my booth.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-03-2006 01:35 AM                     Automation? Cue detector?  |  IP: Logged Wolff King Morrow Master Film Handler Posts: 490 From: Denton, TX, USA Registered: Feb 2004 posted 01-03-2006 01:55 AM                        Sounds like the automation (assuming you have one of course). If it happens again, check to see what cue position its on. If its on the correct cue, is could be the "stop" button making false contact ever so slightly. If the cue marker is reset back to zero, it could be a bad board alltogether.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-03-2006 02:11 AM                     Nope, (Welcome to Film-Tech) called it's that failsafe assembly you have. What you have is the 3Q failsafe assembly made by SPECO and I've had that happened to me twice on different occasions. The back of the failsafe unit is a circuit board that has a bunch of units that were soldered in the circuit board. The board and the metal backing are so close that the excess wires that are soldered onto the board will touch that back case causing a short and that causes system shutdown. I took off the back and removed the circuit board. Then, snipped off those extra lengths of the wires so not to touch the case and the problem was solved. Also, check the wire harness going into the back of the failsafe assembly. This harness loves to work itself after time, and this could cause your problems as well. (change your topic title to "Irregular Christie Shutdown", or similar..what you have is a "teaser" topic heading (which is causing us to guess instead of being a definite title) that will get you in trouble with the moderator since the posting rules weren't followed..a little tip..thx) -thx Monte [ 01-03-2006, 03:19 AM: Message edited by: Monte L Fullmer ]  |  IP: Logged Wolff King Morrow Master Film Handler Posts: 490 From: Denton, TX, USA Registered: Feb 2004 posted 01-03-2006 12:45 PM                        Ah, wasn't aware what cue detector he had on. Sounds like a really great design ;-). Speaking of which, what are some really good cue detectors? I'm not exactly happy with mine, especially since I've had booth staff twice in the past 2 years misthread them and scratch the entire print all to hell. Beyond that, they also are very picky about foil tape not being "fresh" enough to detect.  |  IP: Logged Steve Scott Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1300 From: Minneapolis, MN Registered: Sep 2000 posted 01-03-2006 01:27 PM                     The Eprad no-contact detector worked well in two Strong installations I know of personally.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-03-2006 01:49 PM                     ..yea the FP-350 is the one made by EPRAD for Strong. Just got to keep the underside clean of dust though.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-03-2006 03:15 PM                        Big Sky & Neumade make a cue detector that uses light to trigger the cues. The failsafe is a conventional microswitch with moving roller arm. I have used these for years with almost no missed cues. Will work with any automation since dry contacts are the output. Louis  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-03-2006 06:02 PM                        This happens frequently. A newbie will post a question, use a "teaser" title, then they get chewed out by one or more people but then they still never change their title. Then they get banned or further chewed out by a moderator. Don't these newbies actually read the repsonses to their question? Or do they just post once and then go away? On the off chance that Will is still around somewhere, HEY DUDE! CHANGE YOUR THREAD TITLE! READ THE RULES! Or risk the wrath of the Brad!  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-03-2006 07:51 PM                     Not everyone eats, drinks, and sleeps Film-Tech. Some people may only check once/day, perhaps not realizing that they can receive voluminously detailed technical responses so quickly! Give the guy a day. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-03-2006 08:13 PM                     People only get booted if they blatantly break the rules. In such an instance, if he has been told by say 2 or more people as replies to the thread HE started, and then he posts anyway completely disregarding that, he will generally get one more notice, and if yet another reply of his turns up without the thread title fixed...BAM, gone. After all, if someone is that freakin' stupid, they won't learn anything here anyway. Enough talk about banning...let's get back to the guy's problem please and see if he is smart enough to fix his teaser title.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-03-2006 08:36 PM                        OK, problem idea: Was there maybe a short power outage? (Just a blink) Our current automation does not respond to such, but our previous unit would just stop if there was a short power blip -- just barely enough to blink the lights.  |  IP: Logged Brad Allen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 688 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-04-2006 12:48 PM                     A relay in the mix that needs replaced possibly.  |  IP: Logged

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