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Author Topic: Kelmar Rewinding Bench felt clutch pad? Robert Burtcher Expert Film Handler Posts: 194 From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Registered: Jun 2005 posted 02-09-2006 06:14 PM                     I just recently got a package of the felt clutch pads that go on a Kelmar rewinding bench off eBay. If you look at the manual for the Kelmar RTV-8900 rewinding bench, this is Kelmar part number 720324, or #38 "Disc, Felt, Clutch" on the exploded diagram. My question is, are these things supposed to be oiled? The bag they came in has a light yellow oil soaking these things. The one on the bench at work is dry, or so I think. What's going on here?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-09-2006 06:50 PM                        I'd fathom a guess that the old clutch pad has dried out.  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 02-09-2006 08:16 PM                     Did your dealer sell them to you with oil on them? I'd demand a refund! I've bought several pairs of Kelmar felt clutch pads in the past year or two, they ALWAYS come dry.  |  IP: Logged Don Furr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 509 From: Sun City, Ca USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 02-09-2006 09:48 PM                     My Neumade Ultra clutch is dry as well. Don  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-09-2006 10:45 PM                     I always run my clutch pads dry, particularly on running reel to reel. That way I don't have to deal with the variance as the pads dry out over time. Same for the rewind bench.  |  IP: Logged Robert Burtcher Expert Film Handler Posts: 194 From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Registered: Jun 2005 posted 02-10-2006 04:13 AM                     Thanks for the help, guys. They were purchased on eBay for very cheap (like $8 including shipping), in a lot of 21. However, I feel like a doofus, as I found out tonight that the Kelmar RTV-8xxx series does NOT use the pads I bought. (The ones I bought are 4" OD / 2" ID) They're likely for the hand-crank rewinder or something like that. Oh well. It's no big loss, especially since it was a personal purchase, and not one done for the company.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-10-2006 04:49 AM                     But, not a complete loss. They could be the pads for these Kelmar arms here. Do they look like this, which is depicted here in the parts section? If so, you could resell them back on "eBone" and someone would easily grab these especially if these pads that you have in your possession ARE the ones for these Kelmars and you post this information in your auction posting ... -Monte -Monte  |  IP: Logged Robert Burtcher Expert Film Handler Posts: 194 From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Registered: Jun 2005 posted 02-10-2006 06:41 AM                     From the manual you posted, the felt clutch pads appear to be the same ones, or very similar to, ones used in the Kelmar RTV-8xxx series of bench rewinders. The felt clutch pads used in the reel arm you mentioned, as well as the ones on the 8xxx rewinding benches, appear to be about 5" OD / 0.5" ID, while the ones I have are 4" OD / 2" ID. Here is a picture of the ones I have, for reference: The auction wording was vague, but it did state, "These are friction pads for a Kelmar rewinder." So, if Kelmar made them, perhaps these are intended for use on a hand-cranked rewinder or something of that nature?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-10-2006 01:33 PM                     kinda funny and interesting, but these look like felt pads for the take-up assemblies for open reel tape recorders. They are about the right size... -monte  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-10-2006 01:36 PM                       Seems like I recall the old instructions for Kelmar reel arms wanted you to put a couple drops of oil on the felts when installing them.  |  IP: Logged John Eickhof Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 588 From: Wendell, ID USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 02-10-2006 02:40 PM                        Those pad appear to be woppolini (cinemeccanica) type for the 10k & 14k take ups and they were oiled from the factory. It looks like you got taken by the very common 'vague' descriptions provided by some on Epay...  |  IP: Logged Gary H. Pecherkiewicz Film Handler Posts: 22 From: Macedonia, Ohio United States Registered: Mar 2005 posted 02-14-2006 11:20 PM                     As per Kelmar Systems for clutch care: "The Felt clutch discs have been given an initial lubrication at the factory with SAE 40 non-detergent oil. It is suggested that the clutches be cleaned and examined periodically. When lubrication is required, the use of heavy non-detergent oil is suggested. Do not over oil."  |  IP: Logged

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