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Gene Stavis
Film Handler

Posts: 26
From: New York, NY
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 07-12-2006 05:01 PM

Jack Roe Co. markets a film cleaning solution under the name of JACRO. I have used FilmGuard, Filmrenew, Renovex II and the old RTI (unavailable now). Has anyone used JACRO or does anyone know the ingredients?

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Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 07-12-2006 05:25 PM

We buy Filmguard from Jack Roe. I've just looked on their UK site and can't find any reference to an own brand cleaning solution, just FG (the site won't let me link direct, but if you select the 'Film Handling' category on the left it'll take you to the relevant page).

Jonathan?

FWIW, we use own-brand Jack Roe splicing tape and lens cleaning liquid regularly, and I've also bought other own-brand bits and pieces (e.g. platter covers) from them in the past - absolutely no complaints. A tad on the pricey side, perhaps, but their customer service is excellent and delivery is always prompt.

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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 07-12-2006 05:47 PM

Jack Roe USA lists:

CODE DESCRIPTION UNIT
CJRFCLEANG JACRO FILM CLEANER-GALLON EACH

I too used to obtain most of my supplies from Jack Roe, always excellent service.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-12-2006 05:53 PM

quote: Gene Stavis
I have used FilmGuard, Filmrenew, Renovex II and the old RTI (unavailable now).

And unavailable for a very good reason too! Man that RTI cleaner was really vile stuff. No doubt that most of the folks that ran those RTI film inspection machnes fed with the RTI cleaner ended up with brain damage from the fumes!
Phewwwwwwwww!

Mark

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Charles Greenlee
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 801
From: Savannah, Ga, U.S.
Registered: Jun 2006

posted 07-12-2006 09:05 PM

At the Carmikes' we used C-Lube. No complaints about it except if left sitting long enough, the oil seemed to seperate from the solvent. At my current theatre, we use Film Gaurd, which I really like. You can buy it in bulk, like you really use that much, and you can get it in standard garden type spray bottles which are useful for saturating the pads on our film cleaner. FilmGuard to my knowlege doesn't separate on the shelf. IMHO, stick with what you know esp. if it already does a good job. Unless, that is, if anyone here can recommend anything better, at which point I may consider converting, but for now I'm happy.

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John Wilson
Film God

Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 07-12-2006 11:54 PM

Once you've used Film Guard...why would you go to use anything else?

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 07-13-2006 10:03 AM

Many of the older film cleaning/lubricating solutions used methyl chloroform (1,1,1-trichloroethane) as the solvent. This solvent can no longer be manufactured because it is banned for its adverse effect on the ozone layer:

http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/ods.html

http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/index.html

quote:
Welcome to EPA's ozone depletion web area! Within this area you'll find information about the science of ozone depletion, information about the regulatory approach to protecting the ozone layer, and information on alternatives to ozone-depleting substances, as well as information on a number of other topics.

http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/intpol/index.html

quote:
The Montreal Protocol and International Ozone Protection Policies
EPA History Office's Montreal Protocol Site
International Treaties:

The Vienna Convention on the Protection of the Ozone Layer
Signed in 1985, this treaty is the precursor to the Montreal Protocol.

The Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer
Adopted on September 16, 1987 and amended four times (see below), this treaty is the basis on which Title VI of the Clean Air Act was established.

London Amendment (1990)
Copenhagen Amendment (1992)
Montreal Amendment (1997)
Beijing Amendment (1999)

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Steve Scott
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1300
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 07-13-2006 12:47 PM

C-lube replaced XeKote at Muller theaters once polyester became the norm. I never liked the consistency of C-lube, though it cleaned as well as needed.

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Charles Greenlee
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 801
From: Savannah, Ga, U.S.
Registered: Jun 2006

posted 07-13-2006 08:59 PM

Yeah, now that I've used it a little I prefer FG.

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