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William Clark
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From: Mililani, HI, United States
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted 08-27-2006 01:12 AM
This week, when my theater opened Invincible and Beerfest (along with some others), I noticed (and other people noticed) that in the same spot in the film, the picture gradually fades to blackness and the sound drops out, then it comes back and so does the sound. I think I can rule out a failing bulb, because it happens at the exact same spot in each movie, and happens every time, so it's obviously a problem with the print.
Being that I've worked a grand total of three shifts in the projection booth, my knowledge of potential problems is pretty limited... I was wondering if any of you had any ideas as to what could be wrong?
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Frank Angel
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posted 08-27-2006 04:46 PM
Surely if TES sends you the print an hour before screening, they can't very well bill the theatre for the lab defect if it is reported within 24 hrs. Then again, even without a prescreening, a defect such as a stretch of black should have been a red flag caught during the print prep and buildup. It would be very easy to determine that this is a lab defect because the soundtrack as well as the image would have gone black as well.
I guess if the theatre has no prescreening procedure, then at the very least, it should assign an "audition usher" to watch the film from start to finish the very first show to spot anything that needs attention. At least then any lab mistakes could be reported by the first day.
Depending on how much emphasis the theatre manager puts on quality presentation vs. money, it wouldn't be too late to still call for a replacement reel. How much would they charge for a single reel? For a popular film that is doing good business, eating the cost of a reel so as to provide a flawless show would be something that should be considered. Besides, the theatre could possible contact the distributor and explain the situation. If TES charges them for a replacement reel, the theatre might be able to negotiate that cost into the house nut.
Barring that kind of committment to presentation, I guess the next best thing would be to edit out those offending sections. If luck is with you, the edit might not be too terribly noticable.
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John Pytlak
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posted 08-28-2006 09:46 AM
Lab "safelight fogging" generally is blue/cyan/purple in coloration, and is either seen as an overall coloration across the full width of the film (including the perforation area and edges), or an "edgefog" where the light piped into the edge of the film roll as it sat under a "safelight". Occasionally, you will see white light fogging, which would normally be yellow/brown in color on the print.
If fogging affects the sound, or is obvious in the picture, a replacement reel should be ordered immediately. As noted, a good reason for prescreening inspection, or at the very least, someone watching and listening to the presentation before the busy weekend shows.
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Stephen Furley
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posted 08-28-2006 12:27 PM
quote: Brad Miller Dustin, you are correct it shouldn't matter, but the sad fact of reality is that in every case I've seen a report made to the booker later than opening day the theater got charged.
Several people here have commented in the past, and regretted, that theatres which damage prints do not get charged for it. So, if you damage a print you don't get charged, but if you report a faulty reel, which is clearly not your fault, then you do?
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