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Robert E. Allen
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Checotah, Oklahoma
Registered: Jul 2002


 - posted 05-02-2007 02:54 AM      Profile for Robert E. Allen   Email Robert E. Allen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We have 15 Christie machines at our house and prior to coming here I'd run just about everything made EXCEPT Christie. I can't say I'm at all thrilled to get my hands on them. One of them has a focus drift problem in the flat mode. I mean it is constant requiring the operator to return to that machine every couple of minutes to correct the focus. I can stand there and watch it drift. I checked to see that the lens is tight in its mount and attempted to move it by hand but it's solid. So we moved the print to another maching and hung a "No Flat Prints" sign on the machine. There is no problem with scope prints on that machine.
Any advise? (I thought about putting the machine in the dumpster but realized I couldn't cover the cost on my salary.)

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 05-02-2007 03:10 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Robert, the flat lens is probably not screwed tightly into its barrel. Remember even though the barrel of the lens is mounted tightly into the turret doesn't mean the actual lens element isn't working it's way loose with the vibration of the projector.

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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...we run into that problem when the booth operators holler at my due to focus issues in SCOPE ... sure enough, the backup element lens barrel has came unscewed out of the mains barrel about half way.. Having manual turrets, they grab the rear of the scope lens and use it as a handle to swing the turret around..and not knowing that they are unscrewing the element barrel at the same time.

I remember a cinema that had the same flat focus issue with a PRO-35 'boat anchor' - horrible flat focus, til I found the element barrel was halfway unscrewed from the mains barrel and actually tipping upward when incerted into the lens holder..

-Monte

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Alex Grueneberg
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From: Chicago, IL
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 - posted 05-02-2007 04:35 AM      Profile for Alex Grueneberg   Author's Homepage   Email Alex Grueneberg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can loose glass elements in the flat lens cause drift at all? We've been having a similar issue.

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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Easy way to prove it. Swap FLAT lens with another house; does it stay or go? Louis

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 05-02-2007 08:03 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Robert E. Allen
We have 15 Christie machines at our house
WOW! One in each room... bedrooms, bathrooms and even in the kitchen [Big Grin] .

If you stop and analyze the Christie and begin to understand it you will actually discover that its a dam good machine(assuming you don't have an older model with the shutter gearbox).

Mark

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Ken Lackner
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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
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quote: Alex Grueneberg
Can loose glass elements in the flat lens cause drift at all? We've been having a similar issue.
Absolutely. To determine if this is the case, remove the lens, hold it up to your ear, and give it a gentle shake. Hear anything? If so, then one (or more) of the glass elements is loose and the lens will need to be sent in for repair.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Actually even a local camera repair shop can tighten up the element lock rings with an appropriate lens spanner. Then apply a small dot of black paint to aid in locking that ring in place or it may loosen up on you again. Easy repair!

Mark

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Robert E. Allen
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From: Checotah, Oklahoma
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 - posted 05-03-2007 01:45 AM      Profile for Robert E. Allen   Email Robert E. Allen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Brad et al. I'll check that out.

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