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Topic: Century MSC or Simplex Apogee what's the better pick?
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-07-2007 05:58 PM
Naturally, I'm a Kinoton proponent. Pricing has been tough since there is a 35% Euro to Dollar conversion...in a market where profits are not allowed to be anywhere near that! So yes, they will be pricey as compared to domestic models. They are, never the less, the best machines out there...steadiest pictures and best sound reproducers (current versions...I'm no fan of the older sound head modules...way too small an impedance drum and can get very fluttery very easily...they fixed that on current units).
Simplex and Century speak for themselves...they've been in continious operation for over a half Century now. I disagree with Mark's post (most all of it) though there is not denying that with Simplex you will get some seepage. The older castings are indeed more porous. However, one can normally get a superior image/sound from an older head than a newer one. One can certainly change out the lens mount without too much fuss either.
The Century is a cement mixer...a non-precision machine that seems to curn out movies day in and day out.
I've always preferred Simplex to Century though a Century JJ can do very well on 35mm, picture wise.
As for Kinoton...I don't know what Mark is so worried about with the Delrin gates/skates...they are in expensive and each year when you replace them, it is like having a brand new projector again with all new gate components. Note, the runner strips, like the Century "C", you get two cracks at them by transposing the sides. The gear train is pretty darn simple with a bicycle chain to link the sprockets to the intermittent. They also won't piss oil all over the place like a Super.
The PK60s have proven to be the most reliable and least expensive projector to keep running. We have many of them out there and they just seem to go and go. They are quiet too. Remember, you only have to buy the machines once, you have to live with them for a long time. Initial price should not be the only concern. You are not going to get a Mercedes at Cheverolet prices.
As for the Kinoton E projectors...Mark is just plain wrong...I service probably as many or more than anyone on them...and they are in places that run ALL types of films...new, old, cut up or prestine...in all cases they really spank all other projectors in steadiness. The new "Premier" versions are said to be 4-5 times steadier than previous "E" projectors which in an of itself could mean increasing picture resolution significantly since the image is steadier in the gate (in excess of 100 l/mm). If you are having problems with FP30/30Es being fussy with film, it is the technician or the projectionist, not the projector.
Nobody believes in the 2-projector concept as much as me so I would agree with Robert on this one.
Steve
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