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Mattias Mattsson
Film Handler

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From: Göteborg, Sweden
Registered: May 2007


 - posted 06-13-2007 10:00 PM      Profile for Mattias Mattsson   Email Mattias Mattsson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My copy of 'The Focal Encyclopedia of Film & Television Techniques' (1969) has this information on FILM FOOT:

"[...] The length of four standard positive perforations is actually 0.748 in. so that 16 frames measures 11.968 in. or 0.032 in. short of a true foot. This means that the length of a reel described as 1,000 (film) feet is almost 3 ft. short of the full linear distance."

Is this the unit used for new release prints today? (i.e. 11.968 in. per 16 frames)

(I'm a bit confused since Kodak's Film Calculator at http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/filmCalculator.html seems to use linear ("true") feet)

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
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 - posted 06-14-2007 01:37 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I thought this thread was about the condition one gets after carrying too many film cans up the booth stairs.

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Monte L Fullmer
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yea..and blisters carrying "fox boxes" up a long flight of stairs....

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 06-14-2007 06:29 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kodak MAKES the film. Believe Kodak.

Who is The Focal Encyclopedia of Film & Television Techniques anyway? And besides, they wrote it in 1969. Everyone was stoned back then.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
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 - posted 06-14-2007 08:24 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, but 11.968-inches/16 frames is correct none-the less for release prints.

A release print has its perforation pitch at .1870" and there are exactly 4 of them per frame...16*4*.1870 = 11.968 inches.

And to shatter another rule of thumb...it is only really 89.76-feet/minute. This is all presumming that you are running sync motors with proper pulley ratios.

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John Hawkinson
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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
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Honestly, it's not worth losing sleep over. Projectors have sprockets, films have perfs, and as long as the sprockets can fit in the perforations, they'll pull the film along however fast the sprockets turn.

So you can shoehorn 0.1866" pitch film into regular projector sprockets, or you can use normal on-spec 0.1870". And remember, age, temperature, humidity and processing variations may lead to variation (esp. shrinkage).

--jhawk

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 06-14-2007 06:45 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
All pertinent film dimensions are well documented by the SMPTE standards:

http://www.smpte.org/standards

quote:
In keeping with SMPTE's original goal of standardizing the industry, SMPTE Standards and Test Materials continue to maintain organization and uphold the integrity of the industry. As part of SMPTE's ongoing goal to advance technical theory in the motion imaging industry, we offer standards and test materials designed to assist you in both your day-to-day business, and your long-term career enhancement.

http://store.smpte.org/category-s/1.htm

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Matthew Jaro
Film Handler

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From: Gaithersburg, MD, USA
Registered: Jul 2003


 - posted 06-17-2007 12:57 PM      Profile for Matthew Jaro   Author's Homepage   Email Matthew Jaro   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi John --- It's great to see your post. I hope you're feeling better. I see you just couldn't resist talking about film specs. Keep it up and all the best.

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