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James Ness
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 - posted 04-09-2008 01:13 AM      Profile for James Ness   Author's Homepage   Email James Ness   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This has probably been answered before but I couldn't find a straight answer.

I'm guessing you probably have to go from the dvd players coaxial output into some kind of reciever then from the separate channels in through the 6 channel input on the 650.

how would you wire something like that?

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Mark Strube
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Something like this would take care of your needs: http://www.uslinc.com/products-sound-ECI60.html

This would connect easily to that 25-pin analog input. Takes both digital coax and optical (toslink), decodes Dolby 5.1 from DVD's, satellite... whatever you need.

Also I believe you'd have some options if you're using a DVD player that has a built-in Dolby/DTS decoder, in which case it would have 6-8 RCA analog outputs on the back... there are cables that will turn that into the 25-pin connector.

Yet another, albeit more cumbersome solution would be to hook your DVD player to a home audio receiver that does Dolby, and also happens to have 6-8 RCA audio pre-outs on the back. Go from those to a 25-pin connector using the adapter cable. The only cable I've found like that was from a vague site on Google product search, and the inputs were not labeled... so perhaps someone else on here has a good recommendation for where to go for such a cable.

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Brad Miller
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No, no, no. Just hook into the CP650's "option card i/o" connector. All you have to do is take an RCA male cable and connect the + lead to pin #1 and the - lead to pin #7 of that DB25 connector and assign the format for AC3 decoding to one of the buttons on the front. Then connect the RCA plug into the coaxial output of your DVD player.

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Mark Strube
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Very nice. I guess my solution would only be good if you wanted a quick way to move this input between different types of processors (XD10P's etc).

I haven't had a chance to experiment with this yet, will the XD10 play consumer (DVD) DTS audio through what I believe is the digital coax connector on the back?

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Brad Miller
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quote: Mark Strube
I guess my solution would only be good if you wanted a quick way to move this input between different types of processors (XD10P's etc).
So it is easier and faster to move another unit AND wiring as opposed to just moving that one wire? [Razz]

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Mark Strube
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For people who don't know the deep ins & outs of different processors... sure!

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James Ness
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quote: Brad Miller
No, no, no. Just hook into the CP650's "option card i/o" connector. All you have to do is take an RCA male cable and connect the + lead to pin #1 and the - lead to pin #7 of that DB25 connector and assign the format for AC3 decoding to one of the buttons on the front. Then connect the RCA plug into the coaxial output of your DVD player.
this is possible without having the ex add-on?

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Pete Naples
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No, you need the EX board installed.

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Brad Miller
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He said he had a CP650. That comes standard on the CP650. Check your model numbers. [Wink]

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Ron Funderburg
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Brad, is there a way to do this on DTS X10? I don't see any thing that would make me think you could but I am curious if it can be done and if so how.

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Pete Naples
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Brad, you are correct. Pedantic but correct.

Most people don't know the model IDs and refer to them all as a CP650, CP500, CP65 etc.

Ron, do you mean XD10 or XD10P? [Roll Eyes] I find people don't know the difference (and it's a BIG one) and often confuse the two units. The answer to your question is yes in either case, assuming you've got the correct configuration.

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Ron Funderburg
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I have both but the processor unit (X10P) has no interface for a coaxial in put and it appears that X10 has only video inputs and that option is not active on this one. It seems a bit strange to me that the video processor is already installed and you only need the license to use it! There two video RCA's and input and an output on what appears to be the video card and two that are also yellow on in another area!

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James Ness
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i'm pretty sure we dont have the ex board on any of our cp650's
whats the easiest way to tell?

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Peter Castle
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If you want flexibility in what you want to play, why not just get a domestic multi-channel receiver - even one which handles the latest audio formats on BluRay and HD-DVD - and use it to decode the audio to discrete channels and feed them into whatever processor you have.

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Phil Ranucci
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To check what boards are in your CP650 use the menu and fader knob to get to 'about this 650'(or something like that). It'll tell you what is installed. The #'s are explained in the manual.
Also can't you can program Non sync 2 as a 5.1 analog input if you have a DVD player with analog outputs?

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