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Author Topic: Can you buy just black film Jeremy M Smith Film Handler Posts: 48 From: Taupo New Zealand Registered: Aug 2008 posted 08-10-2008 01:54 AM                     Just wandering can you buy just black film as I have to keep trying to steal black film with no sound track off trailers and film. it is very hard to find long enough peices.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 08-10-2008 02:11 AM                     Of course you can buy plain black film.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy M Smith Film Handler Posts: 48 From: Taupo New Zealand Registered: Aug 2008 posted 08-10-2008 02:26 AM                     where from  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 08-10-2008 04:44 AM                     quote: Jeremy M Smith where from Jack Roe (CS) Ltd Black Mylar with Frame lines FSPMY35BKF for 100ft Roll Or Black Polyester with Frame Indicator FSPMY35BKFI for 100ft roll  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-10-2008 04:48 AM                     Call Atlab Image and Sound. They'll get you whatever you need.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy M Smith Film Handler Posts: 48 From: Taupo New Zealand Registered: Aug 2008 posted 08-10-2008 05:01 AM                     Yea they just takes months here to get anything  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 08-10-2008 06:22 AM                        Any good cinema equipment dealer will stock "leader for lens changes." BB-100 from Hadden is a good example. No sound, no frames. Louis  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-10-2008 11:40 AM                     The best commercial leader available on the market (other than the stuff I make but don't sell publicly) is from Jack Roe and I think it is called blackhole leader or something like that...or you could purchase some 35mm fullcoat magnetic film and use. Both are very scratch resistant (literally you can drag it around the floor) and they truly give you the look of the douser being closed and exciter/led being off. The BB100 isn't very good leader, as it isn't truly opaque and scratches easily, but it's the better product of what most dealers sell. The B100 stuff is pure crap and other brands have marks in the soundtrack, etc.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Pitt Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: May 2007 posted 08-10-2008 03:22 PM                     Make sure to steer clear of black film that has framelines all the way across, including in the soundtrack area. If your automation doesn't mute the sound in time for a changeover or startup, you'll get a loud buzzing out of the auditorium speakers as this frameline leader goes through! Seems to happen a lot at the Bradford Cineworld; when they changeover from flat to scope - anyone know what equipment and film they use?  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 08-10-2008 04:03 PM                     quote: Brad Miller The best commercial leader available on the market (other than the stuff I make but don't sell publicly) is from Jack Roe and I think it is called blackhole leader or something like that... Think I know what you mean as we used to order that stuff from PLC Video in London and is great stuff for Feature Change Leader etc. I see Jack Roe also stock it as "Black And White Polyester Spacing" Code: FSPBW35100P  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 08-11-2008 11:44 AM                        Processing raw film stock makes the best black leader. So if you know someone at a film lab that may be a good bet...  |  IP: Logged Patrick Dunn Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: newark, DE, United states Registered: Aug 2005 posted 08-11-2008 11:35 PM                        quote: Brad Miller Both are very scratch resistant (literally you can drag it around the floor) and they truly give you the look of the douser being closed and exciter/led being off. I have no clue what the regal uses near me for their leader, but sometimes before the first green band goes on screen sometimes you may see up to a full second of a bunch of green and red scratches up on screen. It looks like they did drag it along the floor.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-12-2008 12:24 AM                     That would be the generic B100 or BB100 type of mylar leader.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Pitt Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: May 2007 posted 08-14-2008 05:34 PM                     That reminds me of what I used to see at the Sheffield VUE cinema. As I've mentioned before, the Simplex Millennium lens turret is slow and needs a significant amount of spacer film to cover the changeover. After the last trailer, there would be about 1.5 seconds of film scratches before the automation kicked in and changed lenses. Honestly, it looked like the film had been dragged over a gravel surface several times! The background color of this spacer film was usually slightly off-white, or sometimes dark green. Perhaps this is the leader of which you speak?  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-17-2008 12:49 PM                        Agreed with Brad about mag full coat. The Zonal or Pyral stuff which has an antistatic coating on the base side is pretty tough stuff for making up platter leaders, and it's also possible to get it with a mark between every fourth perforation on one side, making it dead easy to cut in rack.  |  IP: Logged

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