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Author Topic: Gran Torino sound Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-22-2009 01:27 PM                        I'm just curious if anyone else noticed problems with the sound in Gran Torino. In some scenes it seemed like it was center channel only and kind of muted. I didn't think it was a huge deal, but we have had a couple seniors comment about it. I'm starting to wonder if we have a bad reel or DTS disk.  |  IP: Logged Blaine Young Master Film Handler Posts: 477 From: Kirkland, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 01-22-2009 02:51 PM                     We've had reports of soft audio in both the DTS and Dolby houses. We're just setting the fader a bit higher.  |  IP: Logged Mark Strube Master Film Handler Posts: 322 From: Milwaukee, WI, United States Registered: Feb 2007 posted 01-22-2009 02:52 PM                        Same thing here in a Dolby house.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-22-2009 10:55 PM                     Had complaints of soft audio in our DTS house and discovered that it was periodically dropping in to analogue. Reset (Dolby) levels on the analogue and had no further complaints. It has since been moved to a SRD house due to needing more seats (been selling out several shows) and haven't had any complaints thus far.  |  IP: Logged Michael Hossen Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Perth, Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 01-23-2009 04:14 AM                        We have been having problems with the DTS on this also. Keeps dropping back to SR.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 01-23-2009 09:35 AM                     I haven't had any tech issues with the DTS or Dolby track itself, but it does seem that overall, the sound track was mixed at a slightly lower level than normal. I'm having to turn my fader up about about 1-2points higher to get a "normal" level of volume in the auditorium, especially in a full house or I get complaints of "low sound". I've watched the film several times now and other than the slightly "soft" audio level, I haven't noticed anything unusual about the mix itself.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-24-2009 11:32 AM                        Remember years ago you would see instructions printed in multiple frames of the Academy leader: "Projectionist - set fader level 3 points higher than normal for this theatre"? I guess this title could benefit from same.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-24-2009 11:36 AM                     Except it only happens in some scenes, not the whole movie so raising the volume could screw things up for the whole movie to make a couple scenes sound levels up to normal.  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-24-2009 01:38 PM                     Took my wife to see it in our biggest house (with DTS). We both noticed low sound at several points. Agree Chris. Kicking it up would not have done any good.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 01-25-2009 10:16 AM                     quote: Chris Slycord raising the volume could screw things up for the whole movie to make a couple scenes sound levels up to normal. Normally, I would agree. I like to think that people who get paid a lot of money to do the sound mixes know what they're doing and have thought extensively about the way the final product sounds. But for whatever reason, the end result just didn't work in our case for this film. So we raised the level and left it up. Before we did this we got several "low sound complaints" a day. We haven't gotten ONE complaint since we made the decision to raise the volume on the 2nd day after the movie opened. I guess it's all in finding a 'happy medium' level. Before we rasied the level, even my boss grabbed a set of booth keys and went in to raise the volume when he sat down to watch the movie with his family. (I was busy at another theater down the street)  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 01-28-2009 10:35 PM                        I saw it at the Regal-UA Union Square 14 in Manhattan and the sound was absolutely fine. Picture was a bit dim though.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-29-2009 01:08 AM                     Maybe we should look at a particular sound format to be the culprit. For example, I watched this in SRD and the sound was well mixed throughout the entire film. Could this be a dts or an sdds track problem?  |  IP: Logged Mark Strube Master Film Handler Posts: 322 From: Milwaukee, WI, United States Registered: Feb 2007 posted 01-30-2009 01:16 AM                        Again, we ran it in SRD, and got quite a few complaints about quiet dialogue when it was run at our usual level.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-30-2009 02:26 AM                     Are you by chance not altering the volume between trailers and feature? If so, then that's your problem. Trailers are recorded too loud and if the fader is adjusted for the trailers, the feature will be too low and dialog will be lost.  |  IP: Logged Mark Strube Master Film Handler Posts: 322 From: Milwaukee, WI, United States Registered: Feb 2007 posted 01-30-2009 02:45 AM                        We are not adjusting the volume. I'd love for our automation to be set up to do that, but I don't have the know-how to make that happen. However, we generally do just run the trailers "too loud," and have the fader set for the level of the actual feature, and we still had to run this one higher. We normally run SRD features at -5.0dB, this one we ran at -3.0dB. We also have DTS in that house... it's continuing to play there this next week, I should try running it in DTS to see if I notice a difference. (We don't have a standard setup, the sound systems for our two largest screens are controlled through touch screens. So, you really have nothing to base those volume levels off of, but they're just to give you an idea.)  |  IP: Logged

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