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Author Topic: Ingolorious Basterds on film? Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-12-2009 10:22 PM                     From the movie review forum: quote: Bobby Henderson Apparently the distributor had the stipulation any movie theater that had any film projection capability at all had to show the movie on 35mm. Is this true? Can anyone shed some light on this?  |  IP: Logged Kevin Fairchild Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Kennewick, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2008 posted 09-12-2009 11:47 PM                     Bogus. We can run 35mm, but played it in 2k.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-13-2009 01:23 AM                     I'm not making this up. The Carmike 8 here in Lawton has all 8 of its screens D-cinema equipped. Yet the theater received only a 35mm print of Inglorius Basterds. Only 2 of the Carmike 8's houses (number 5 and number 7) have 35mm projection left in operation. The projectors from the other six auditoriums are still up there in the booth "in moth balls." The GM there has been a good friend of mine for more than 15 years. He doesn't bullshit me on stuff like this. It would have been better for him to get a D-cinema JPEG2000 virtual print, particularly because more people on his staff would have been able to play it. But with the theater playing it only on film, and with the ever changing turnover in employees noted, only he and perhaps one other person is still able to thread 35mm. This friend of mine, the GM, doesn't trust anyone else to do it. When I saw the movie, he was repairing a projector bearing beforehand. Out of all the people I know personally, I don't know anyone who works longer hours than this guy. Carmike Cinemas is VERY LUCKY to have someone like this working for them. Anyway, the film projection looked pretty darned good as it usually does. The audio just wasn't 5.1 digital.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 09-13-2009 10:19 AM                        The experience of one theater in Lawton doesn't extrapolate to "Everyone with a working 35mm projector must play this on film". In my early days on Film-Tech I made a statement along the lines of Cinemark 17 in Springfield was still running an original print of some movie after something like 30 weeks and it looked like new. I was immediately challenged to provide proof that Cinemark had not received a replacement print. I've been nailed on that kind of stuff more than once. As I probably should. The 35mm print I saw was about as high in image quality as it seems to get these days. I wouldn't be surprised if they did a 4K intermediate. I suppose I could state as fact "The print I saw was 4K" but I won't go there without any actual data to back me up. quote: "You must learn to govern your passions -- They will be your undoing."  |  IP: Logged Mark Strube Master Film Handler Posts: 322 From: Milwaukee, WI, United States Registered: Feb 2007 posted 09-13-2009 10:23 AM                        According to IMDB, the digital intermediate was 2K... but I don't know how accurate they are on stuff like that. It is a great-looking print.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-13-2009 10:31 AM                        Over in the Hey You Suck topic I posted about a friends experience at his Auburn (AL) Wynnsong experience with Basterds on film. It is my understanding that all Carmike's keep at least one 35mm screen (even if no one knows how to run it). It has been my observation here that Carmike uses its 35mm screen mostly for filler. Maybe an edict came down from Columbus to put the 35mm house to use with a potential moneymaker. That said, it appears the 35mm house in Montgomery is running it digital, but I haven't been there to check.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-13-2009 10:44 AM                       quote: Bobby Henderson Carmike Cinemas is VERY LUCKY to have someone like this working for them. Indeed. Jack is one of a kind. And there are none more gracious. I serviced his theatres back in the Video Triple and Showcase days. We are still friends to this day.  |  IP: Logged Jake Spell Master Film Handler Posts: 294 From: Johns Island SC Registered: May 2009 posted 09-13-2009 04:11 PM                     The Carmike 8 I used to work has all digital 3 35mm projectors just in case and received a 35mm print of basterds. quote: Bobby Henderson Carmike Cinemas is VERY LUCKY to have someone like this working for them. Very true considering how bad Carmike treats their employees  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-13-2009 05:53 PM                        For those who have both D-cinema and film, how do you decide what format to book, assuming that both are available? I can imagine that this might be a difficult decision to make without any way to know in advance the condition of the 35mm print that you might receive (much less the quality of the lab work).  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-13-2009 06:05 PM                        If I made a movie, I'd want it to be shown digitally at as many venues as possible since many of today's managers and projectionsts are incompetent and would ruin my movie. I would only give film to theaters where people I know or know of worked in the booth. And I'd try to make it 70mm as well while I'm at it.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-13-2009 06:12 PM                        quote: David Stambaugh The experience of one theater in Lawton doesn't extrapolate to "Everyone with a working 35mm projector must play this on film". Maybe there just weren't enough digital prints so they sent a film print. I could see that happening when a movie is more popular than the studio expects it to be, and I think "I.B." pretty much exceeded all expectations.  |  IP: Logged Kevin Fairchild Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Kennewick, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2008 posted 09-13-2009 06:27 PM                     Update: I guess our booker told the distributor that our 35mm projectors were inoperable. Having a digital shortage doesn't make sense to me. It would be easier to make extra digital copies then film copies.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-13-2009 06:33 PM                        quote: Mike Blakesley Maybe there just weren't enough digital prints so they sent a film print. There is no limit to the copies a digital print can have.  |  IP: Logged Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 09-13-2009 07:39 PM                     Maybe somebody screwed up and ordered way too many 35mm prints. How far in advance do they have to order them?  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-13-2009 11:51 PM                        Joe R: No, but there are sometimes not enough hard drives containing digital prints to serve the demand. A couple of guys at the Rocky Mountain NATO convention last week were saying they'd installed digital, but were sometimes having trouble getting "prints" so they had to use 35mm sometimes.  |  IP: Logged

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