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Author Topic: Avatar's Aspect Ratio Craziness Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 12-11-2009 01:48 PM                    It's being reported in the FITA forum that Avatar will have both a flat and a scope version in DLP and that the theaters are required to figure out which version will get the maximum screen size in each auditorium. In an effort to keep the chit-chat out of the "no chit-chat" forum... let me be the first to say... "what the hell are they thinking?" I can think of a couple of theaters that will not surprise me in the least if they get this wrong.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-11-2009 03:13 PM                      |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-11-2009 03:44 PM                     Everyone all together now: "Avatar in a theater with top masking sucks!!!"  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Spracklen Film Handler Posts: 39 From: Arlington, TX, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-11-2009 04:31 PM                     Wouldn't it just be safer/easier to release it as "full container"?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-11-2009 04:37 PM                        So will each theater also get flat and scope prints (and by "prints" I mean real, actual 35mm film if any of you guys remember that horseshit) and be forced to play whatever is biggest in any given auditorium? It only seems logical to me.  |  IP: Logged Sam King Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 12-11-2009 05:45 PM                     2D is SCOPE, any version of 3D (be in IMAX or digital) is FLAT. The End. Not all too confusing  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-11-2009 05:45 PM                     Sam - WRONG! Everyone ignore his post. Digital prints shown in quality, thoughtfully designed auditoriums with proper side masking will get a scope presentation. Digital prints shown in shitty auditoriums with suck-ass top or scissor masking will be presenting a craptacular flat presentation. Theater complexes with a mixture of masking types will fuck it all up. Joe, I actually asked that question. All 35mm prints will be in the proper aspect ratio, scope. Jeremy! OMG!!! JEREMY!!! Your yearly posting! Full container wouldn't work too well because the eyeline of the compositions would then be off. If you look at the special features of the Terminator 2 laserdisc you will see how they frame down for a 16:9 ratio to preserve decent composition. Wait, did I just say laserdisc? Who am I kidding, nobody has those anymore.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-11-2009 05:48 PM                        Just me!  |  IP: Logged Jack Theakston Master Film Handler Posts: 411 From: New York, USA Registered: Sep 2007 posted 12-11-2009 06:40 PM                     Why can't Cameron just make a NORMAL movie like everyone else?  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-11-2009 07:28 PM                     I still have my T2 laserdisc box set. The one with the silver T2 logo - and a DVL-700 that still works. How many people have the Abyss box set where Cameron calls home video "Crap Vision VHS tape"  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-11-2009 07:46 PM                     quote: I still have my T2 laserdisc box set. The one with the silver T2 logo ... How many people have the Abyss box set where Cameron calls home video "Crap Vision VHS tape" I also have "the Abyss" LD boxed set in the CAV format...and two copies of "T2", but in the CLV format.."Dang!" finding them cheap in thrift stores.... Yea, just like with Disney's "G-force" having the letterbox, flat version for the 3D release against where the film version was in good ol' anamorphic format....a go-figure thing ... quote: Jack Theakston Why can't Cameron just make a NORMAL movie like everyone else? He did..why you'll see it on DVD and BR for home video..along with tonnage of other cinemas playing the film version. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-11-2009 09:32 PM                     So then this why Fox called us back in September to find out what type of masking we had on both of our digital screens.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Jorgenson Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1002 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Feb 2005 posted 12-11-2009 10:17 PM                        quote: Brad Miller Jeremy! OMG!!! JEREMY!!! Hey! What's up? oh... nevermind  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 12-12-2009 01:45 AM                    I was wondering that too, Joe. I think AMC should request all scope movies to be available in flat also since someone over there thought top movable masking was such a fantastic idea. What's "full container"?  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-12-2009 01:51 AM                        quote: Jack Theakston Why can't Cameron just make a NORMAL movie like everyone else? Because then he can't hype the film by saying "it is a TOTALLY NEW film experience never seen before" or some such pile of bragerty nonsense that they have been using in the promotion. Oh wait.....I forgot; he can say any total he wants in hype, especially when he's king of the effin world and all.  |  IP: Logged

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