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Author Topic: Eiki Ex-5000 portable 16mm? Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 01-10-2010 04:41 PM                        Anyone know anything about the Eiki EX-5000 16mm? is it a decent machine? I have a chance to buy one off a local cinema. It looks like it takes a 500-1000 watt Xenon. They never used it so its been in storage for a while. It has handles on the top, and the reel arms come off for transport.  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 01-10-2010 06:09 PM                     Eiki is one of the best machines made. They've been doing it for quite a while so you don't need to worry. I had an Eiki 1015 xenon that I sold. It was made in the 70s and built like a tank. It was all metal. The one you're considering probably has a plastic case which is not a problem. Most 16mm machines are no longer being manufactured. The studios not longer dub 16mm prints. That stopped in about'06.  |  IP: Logged Fred Georges Master Film Handler Posts: 257 From: Lombard, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 01-10-2010 10:24 PM                     The Eiki 5000 uses a rubber belt to couple the drive motor to the cam/tank claw movement. Make sure to check that it hasn't dry rotted from non-use. I've found the saw type action of the 2 tooth claw to not tolerate shrunken or damaged film well. Also, the drive motors speed can become erratic & run way too fast & the only cure is a new motor or a rebuild. The focus rack can loosen up over time but, this can easily be repaired with rubber tubing. Try & check the machine out well before buying and don't pay too much for it. When they are up to snuff they'll put a solid image on screen. I've replaced a few because of nagging, age related problems. The 5000 was built in the early 1970's, Good Luck.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-11-2010 06:31 AM                     Yea, and good luck getting parts for them too!  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 01-11-2010 07:27 AM                        I'll try it out... is $200.00 to much?  |  IP: Logged Richard P. May Expert Film Handler Posts: 243 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 01-11-2010 09:46 AM                     Also consider replacement xenon lamps. We have been looking for the proper 1000w bulb for an Eiki 6100 for months, and our supplier is finally having to order directly from Ushio in Japan, with a 3 month lead time.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 01-11-2010 09:59 AM                     quote: Fred Georges the 2 tooth claw to not tolerate shrunken or damaged film well. I'd like to 2nd this opinion. The Eiki is a well built, quiet running machine with good sound output. I used one of these at a local theater where the throw was about 100' and they were able to get a good, large, steady picture on screen. But, the gate & claw did not handle film with any degree of shrinkage/warpage, or anything less than perfectly made splices well.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Taylor Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 601 From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY Registered: Apr 2000 posted 01-11-2010 10:11 AM                     FWIW: Robert Film in Toronto services those machines, and in fact had a rebuilt one for sale for some time. Check with them for lamps, belts, etc. A well adjusted Eiki will service you as well as anything else unless you want to step up to a unit with a true intermittant. $200 is a steal if it's in good shape.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-11-2010 10:28 AM                        If I remember correctly, there is something about this machine (bulb? some other part?) that is NLA. This may or may not be an issue, depending on what type of condition it is in and how much 16mm you intend to show. If it is complete and operational as received, $200 is a good deal, regardless. Even the tabletop 350w and 550w xenon machines go for more than that. The Eiki is decent for 16mm, but you can do better. I actually like the Hortson machines, but I might be the only one who does. I do not recommend the Prevost. Supposedly, the Kinoton FP-38E is the one that you really want.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-11-2010 10:35 AM                     Hortson and prevost are far from portable for portable xenon i like the Elmo as it will handle almost any damaged print you want to throw at it For pedastal machines I like the Prevost/Favorite the best it has an excellent image and if the damper is set correctly good sound the hortson always has a bit of bounce to it and the soundhead is very high in flutter  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-11-2010 08:57 PM                     quote: Scott Norwood If I remember correctly, there is something about this machine (bulb? some other part?) that is NLA. The lamphouse mirror, maybe? Superior Quartz Products may have an equivalent replacement in stock or, if not, may be able to fabricate a clone from the original lamp, ensuring a stock of quality lamps for years to come. If a lamp explodes, though, and takes out the mirror, the show may be over...  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 01-11-2010 09:11 PM                     Bauer Selecton IIo. 16mm projector Beautiful machines, extremely well built and has an intermittant sprocket. Very quiet too.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-11-2010 11:00 PM                     Be aware that some models of Eiki projector use a VERY expensive control board that is also hard to find.  |  IP: Logged Kirk Futrell Film Handler Posts: 95 From: Nashville, TN / U.S.A. Registered: Nov 2008 posted 01-12-2010 01:34 PM                        I don't know about this model, and I would have to look it up, but I know that Eiki (pronounced A-key, incase anybody was wondering) did make some of their 1k and 2k projectors that use a genevea intermittent, instead of the claw design. This is better for shrunken and damaged films. I've often run 16mm on the claw design and had to stand next to it waiting to push the film down on the bottom loop after the film gate when ever the claw would stop catching. The projector actually has a elliptical rubber wheel that is supposed to resize the loop when this happens, but it rarely works perfectly. Overall though, I have found the Eiki's reliable and easy to use.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-12-2010 02:19 PM                     actually the sprocket driven was bad with shrunken film as well the factory rep from japan pronounced it I-key they were an ok machine at best  |  IP: Logged

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