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Author Topic: Girl with Dragon Tattoo film stock Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2010 12:27 AM                        We have had this movie since March and now it seems to have developed a bit of a problem in reel 8, and only a short section less than 5 minutes long. The film sticks to itself and tries to pull multiple layers through the brain at the same time. Same exact symptoms as static. I have been running Filmguard on it every week since we got it. I checked the leaders and it doesn't denote any particular film stock. Is it AGFA? I did notice a series of numbers that started with the letter A, but that's it.  |  IP: Logged Justin B. Martin Film Handler Posts: 47 From: Arlington, VA, USA Registered: Jul 2010 posted 08-01-2010 02:41 AM                    If you want to rely on the reputability of IMDb's technical specs it's Kodak 2383...  |  IP: Logged Jason Metcalfe Expert Film Handler Posts: 134 From: Austin, TX, U.S. Registered: May 2010 posted 08-01-2010 11:58 AM                     I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but sometimes if we're experiencing static i take a paper towel that's slightly damp with filmguard and rub it along the top of the film while it's sitting on the platter, one or two shows later the problem usually goes away. Sorry you're having trouble with this print, we ran it from march until last friday and it still looked better on it's last show than some films that we've run for half that time. My manager said it must have been made out of unobtanium.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2010 12:10 PM                        Justin, I definitely do not trust the IMDB on this one. Jason, I run the entire print through Filmguard every week, not just a simple wipe. There have always been parts of the print that act a little weird. The tail likes to stick to itself for no reason as well. There isn't much humidity in Denver. Anyway, I am applying an additional coat of FG today. Hopefully that will help. But AGFA and Filmguard are not fast friends judging by my Screenvision rolls.  |  IP: Logged Jason Metcalfe Expert Film Handler Posts: 134 From: Austin, TX, U.S. Registered: May 2010 posted 08-01-2010 12:32 PM                     I'm not sure if it sounds like static or if the print is just deteriorating? Maybe you could try one of those static-duster wipes on the platter and the top of the film to try to eliminate the cling.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2010 01:12 PM                        No, Filmguard should eliminate any such static. I'm sticking with cheap-o film stock as the cause.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-01-2010 01:21 PM                     I'm guessing you have had the print since it was new, right? When I get prints they are used 95% of the time. As such, there are often bits of tape or stickum on the film, left over from some other monkey who put tape on where he shouldn't have or who didn't clean off his splicing tape when he broke down. Most of the time I get prints sticking like that it is because of something sticky left on the film. However, if you got the print new, this might not be the case for you. But... it might do well for you to inspect that part of the print to see if some kind of foreign substance has gotten onto the print.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2010 01:59 PM                        Yup, got it new. And I did inspect and found nothing unusual. When something sticky is on a print, it is more of a "hard drag" of two or more layers all going the same place at the same time. This is more like static symptoms, but oddly only in certain spots.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-01-2010 07:09 PM                     "Green" print?  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 08-01-2010 07:36 PM                     AGFA stock numbers will be a pale amber series of characters beginning with the letters A G S printed outside the sprocket holes where the SDDS track resides, and additionally will feel more supple in the fingers. I have found AGFA stock to be of just as high a quality as Eastman and Fujicolor, with no problems with platters, muts, towers or 2000 changeover in regards to static cling or sticking... and I like the look.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2010 11:28 PM                        It ran fine today (for no reason, FG isn't applied until the projector). Not sure what the problem is. Why would the print have a sudden static attack when I have poured many gallons of Filmguard on it over the months?  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 08-01-2010 11:38 PM                     If it was during a sex scene perhaps one of your operators added his DNA to the film.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-01-2010 11:51 PM                     Any chance you have a center ring/tip of leader that is making a protrusion where you tuck it into the ring? If so does it stick at that point in the revolution? Agfa can look pretty on screen (not necessarily though), but whatever it is made out of is hell on the projectors and sprockets. I hate it. Give me Fuji for extra black blacks and hold the Agfa please.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-02-2010 12:06 AM                        We don't tuck the tip of the leader into the center ring, we use friction, but I think I know the effect you are talking about. Or not. I'm just kind of guessing out of my ass here that I might know. Tony, there is lots of nudity in the movie but the woman depicted onscreen is very disgusting so that cannot be the cause. It happens at the point in reel 8 where the little girl tosses a match or something in the car and it catches on fire (in tinted black and white).  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 08-02-2010 12:43 AM                     Joe. Can you see any fluid or water marking along the sprocket area of the print? A similar thing happened to me once and I traced it back to that section of the print being closely inspected on the bench..by an operator who had a cold soft drink can on the bench..right where the print fell and left swollen and sticky emulsion.  |  IP: Logged

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