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Topic: Philips FP18 problems
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David Boyd
Film Handler
Posts: 17
From: Edinburgh, Midlothian, UK
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted 11-30-2010 12:21 PM
We use what calls itself a "kinoton FP38", being a Kinoton FP30 on the normal side, and a Philips FP18 on the reverse side wearing a "Kinoton" badge. The machines share some electrics, particularly the inverter. The ony difference between the 35mm side and the normal FP30 is that it isn't direct drive, there not being enough space (depth), so it is a belt drive instead. The FP18 has its own lamp house, and the lateral adjustment is by pulling the mechanism in and out on spigots. Vertical is as it is normally by eccentric washer at the gate. Our problems are:
1. There is an awful noise when the machine runs which goes away or at least improves if you exert some pressure on the sprocket end of the intermittent shaft, but there does not seem to be a way (without a proper manual!!) of adjusting the end float, if indeed this is causing the problem. We are told that Kinoton could rebuild the intermittent even though some parts are not available, but we don't know for sure that this is the cause of the trouble, plus it would cost GBP 1,760 for a refurbished unit! This started a few months ago when some very old stock was being run through so perhaps something has become strained.
2. The focus is no longer good (it used to be excellent) and certainly not evenly focused left to right, so perhaps the boresight is out of kilter. However, we don't know the limits of the horizontal adjustment we should work withing i.e. the machine being pulled to and from from the casing on its spigots, and whether this is causing the focus problem, plus the fact the reflector is dodgy anyway.
We have something of a manual but there are pages missing. The maintenance we do on the machine is quite basic: change the intermittent oil regularly and oil the lay-on roller shaft, apart of course from keeping it clean. I used these machines in London at the NFT for years and they were excellent, but then they were stand alone and not being at all compromised by being on the back of an FP30. Does anyone know this type of arrangement? Is it possible to remedy these points in-house?
Any advice appreciated! I think someone in here wanted a manual, so anything I have here I could scan and send in if desirable.
David.
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Marin Zorica
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 671
From: Biograd na Moru, Croatia
Registered: May 2003
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posted 11-30-2010 02:38 PM
I was before a month in London, Old Master's House - Cinema Museum, they have two Kinoton FP38's just like that, both with 500W lamps.
About that noise....it could be intermitent, but maybe it's just pressing skates that are old and used, so they are tiny and stocking between sprocket wholes, but you didn't say which machine makes noise, 35mm or 16mm part?
Is there noise when running without film? As you said focus is bad now, probably skates are weared and not equaly, so film don't sit straight in gates.
Let us know more simptoms here. If everything is okay with intermitent, than other things you could easyly to do repair by you're own.
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