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Author Topic: film guard mounting for changeovers Jim Henk Master Film Handler Posts: 364 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 02-07-2011 11:43 AM                     How are folks mounting film cleaners for Film Guard on 6000 foot changeover machines? Kinda close quarters under normal circumstances. Or is that not happening at all?  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 02-07-2011 02:27 PM                      |  IP: Logged Jim Henk Master Film Handler Posts: 364 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 02-07-2011 03:26 PM                     Holy farg!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-07-2011 05:29 PM                        Someone didn't put enough media on.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-07-2011 05:38 PM                     where is the cds head  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-07-2011 08:04 PM                        I think those were only ever mounted in Colorado.  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-07-2011 11:28 PM                     I have them now. The power supply in the processor is bad but a good friend of mine is rebuilding it.  |  IP: Logged Jim Henk Master Film Handler Posts: 364 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 02-08-2011 12:04 AM                     Okay, hold it. I'm having a "what's wrong with this picture" moment, so bear with the stupid guy for a second, please. In both pictures, I saw the film cleaner on the *feed* side of the head, but from what I've read, the application of Film-Guard, at least initially, leaves a really visible film on the print, that shows up on the screen really obviously. It vanishes after a few runs, but it's definitely there the first time you run something. And as much as folks love this expensive hobby, I can't imagine a print getting theatre schedule runs in folks homes. What does this mean? It means that Jim is obviously missing something major. What am I missing? "Always use your spell-chech."  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-08-2011 12:38 AM                     It means that during the initial application, there will be visible streaks if anyone is watching. If that first show happens to be a test run, then only you and/or your staff will see those streaks. If the first show happens to be your opening day matinee, then only a few "trailer checkers" will see them. Alternatively, you could do your first FG application at the inspection/rewind table, without projecting the reels.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-08-2011 12:47 AM                     quote: Joe Redifer Someone didn't put enough media on. Actually there was enough media. There was just only about an inch left after the reel finished. Let's not forget this install.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-08-2011 02:53 AM                        Wow. That Fuji camera did not age well at all.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-08-2011 09:46 AM                     Here is a more typical example. Film-Guard should be applied from the feed side. I've been told the heat from the bulb aides in the application. For one time shows, I use plain dry media to remove the loose dirt. Dry media cannot be reused.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-08-2011 09:55 AM                        On-topic question: Is there any risk of scratches or film damage with dry media? I have always been scared of this. Should I be? Off-topic question: Is there a reason why the phone is located above the projection port in the above picture? I can't imagine a more inconvenient place for it.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-08-2011 10:05 AM                     Neither can I. Each time I pick it up, I must be mindful that the receiver cord does not hang into the picture. The management required that it be placed there so that I could be reached even if I were threading, working on the machine, or (*groan*) about to perform a changeover. A few months after they put it in, they added a speaker to it so that I can just shout at it if my hands are full. I always use Film-Tech branded media pads, and have not seen any evidence of film damage. I've heard that some other brands can scratch prints. I never use a cleaner on an archive print.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-08-2011 11:14 AM                        They had to add the capability for the speaker phone? We had that same type of phone and I have always shouted at it. If you picked it up the audio quality was horrible because you'd hear booth sounds fed back to you very loudly.  |  IP: Logged

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