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Author Topic: Smart Showmation failsafe function failed Cameron Andrews Film Handler Posts: 29 From: Rexburg, ID 83440 Registered: Apr 2009 posted 05-19-2011 04:17 PM                     I was wondering if any of you have had this issue before. I have a smart showmation with the showgrammer II. All of the sudden (between shows) it stopped recognizing the failsafe. With a meter across the FS and COM terminals, I show continuity when the failsafe is loaded, does not show continuity when the failsafe is not loaded, and it is reading 5 Volts. Everything from the terminations on the automation board back to the failsafe seem to be working normally. It seems like it would have to be a problem in the automation itself. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-19-2011 05:33 PM                     I could call it the microswitch, or any connections in the failsafe to console and vice versa, that could be having problems with keeping the low 5volt voltage in a complete circuit. Course, it could be amperage related with the SMART as old as it is (tired caps for starters) - we may see voltages at 5 volts across the load, but what condition is the "push" to make the 5 volts work? Put your VOM in series with the load to read your amperage.. If you can, swap out failsafe units amongst the other houses and see if this problem follows suit or stays with the one problem house. Good luck as always - Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-19-2011 05:49 PM                     Cameron... That junk should have been put to a death at the local rifle range via a 30-06 many years ago like we did with the Kintek Surround units from Boise! Mark  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-19-2011 05:49 PM                     Check the connections at the cointroler I am not sure what the failsafe switch voltage is but measure the voltage across the switch of another unit My guess it is a problem in the micro or one of the logic relays on the controller board  |  IP: Logged Cameron Andrews Film Handler Posts: 29 From: Rexburg, ID 83440 Registered: Apr 2009 posted 05-19-2011 06:18 PM                     I tried jumpering the FS and Common to rule out the failsafe and wiring. Still nothing. And Mark... I completely agree. There is nothing smart about this smart. In fact this one is at the drive-in because I just replaced it at the in-door with a Kelmar. Carmike loved them so I inherited it. For the drive in all I need is the failsafe and outboard cue. That's all I need from it and the failsafe is the one thing that tanks. Why couldn't it have been the dimmer relay!!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-19-2011 08:30 PM                     If you need some equipment at a good price let me know. I've been pulling out gobs of equipment and moving it all slowly to a warehouse in SLC. Mark  |  IP: Logged Cameron Andrews Film Handler Posts: 29 From: Rexburg, ID 83440 Registered: Apr 2009 posted 05-20-2011 11:14 AM                     Thanks Mark. But I've got a couple AM 5s kicking around. They aren't much better but it'll work.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-20-2011 04:38 PM                     I just pulled a half dozen Kelmar Series IV wall mount automations if you are interested in one or two. The AM-5 wold be better any day over the Smart(dumb). Mark  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-20-2011 06:47 PM                     One automation i always disliked is the Kelmar give me a Showman2 or a cinemation MKIV any day  |  IP: Logged

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