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Topic: Lotsa Sloppy 'Lab Work' Lately!
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Jim Cassedy
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1661
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted 05-29-2011 02:41 AM
I seem to be encountering a lot of sloppy film lab work lately. >One of my "Hangover 2" prints has a 3min section in Reel 4 where the color balance gets goes 'in & out" followed by another 250ft or so where the picture goes almost completely dark. It looks like the film got partly light-struck at the lab.
The color balance was "off" from the begining of the reel, but then, about 800ft in, I start getting blotches like this:
That goes on for about 50ft, and is then followed by this: And this goes on for almost another 200ft.
Eventually , the picture & sound comes back to normal. (and, "no", there are no lab splices in this reel)
I've had a couple of other recent issues too:
> All the SCOPE copies of an "American Express" ad from Screenivsion I'm supposed to be running this week are unwatchable. There appears to have been some problem with the video-to-film transfer, making it look on screen like a VHS tape with a bad tracking error. It looks horrible!
> I've also had trouble with two Technicolor 3D ads in the past two weeks. In both of them it looks like the film slipped in the printer. The framelines are "not where they are supposed to be."
For example, note how in this TARGET ad, the frame lines are each bisecting a perforation, instead of being BETWEEN the perf holes, where they should be, (3D Print- The framelines are delineated by the two small dots on the right, which are 1/2 perf off from the proper position.)
A 3D 'FORD' ad I had last week had the same problem, only worse- - the frame lines were actually MOVING, as the film was apparantly slipping in the printer. The effect on screen was that it looked like someone was constantly trying (unsuccessfully!) to 'frame' the projector and,since this was a 3D print, it meant the the 3D was going in-&-out of correct left/right 'phase'. It all looked very interesting on screen, but I'm sure it's not what the advertiser intended. I pulled all 3 ads off screen since they looked so awful.
Are the lab guys actually trying to kill off film entirely?
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Leo Enticknap
Film God
Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 09-21-2011 06:07 AM
quote: Bob Bregazzi in reply to the last post. surely the film would be joined before it goes through the printer, that would explain why joins are more than likely out of rack. you are joining to blank pieces of film together.
Exactly. If you were able to do this in the light, you could use a synchroniser (or some other way) to count back from the contact printer's gate to ensure that your join would go through on the frame line. In pitch darkness (or working with your arms stuck through the light trap of a change cabinet next to the magazine holding the new roll of stock, a bit like a changing bag you use for taking 35mm still film out of its cartridge and winding it onto the spiral magazine of a developing tank), you can't.
quote: Randy Stankey The prudent operator should always inspect all his film to check for lab splices and cut them out. Even if they are on-frame, they should still be cut out.
I'd guess that the issue is not so much imprudent lab technicians, but rather squeezed budgets: for example, labs are simply not willing to have the money tied up storing a room full of unused short ends of print stock until an order comes through for 3,000 trailers or 1,500 copies of the last reel of a feature that is only 700 feet long and all credits.
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