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Topic: Dolby "Train" Trailer
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Connor Wilson
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Posts: 190
From: Sterling, VA, USA
Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 08-15-2011 08:52 PM
Hi. I was just asking for more info on several versions of this specific trailer. First, I'll give you what I know.
The first version had a supposedly spectacular mix which started quiet, then got loud out of nowhere. It was kind of THX-esque, and from what I've learned lurking on the forums, this scared little kiddies before The Lion King at GCC Northpark West screen 1!
The second version had a different, weaker mix after complaints from exhibitors that the previous version blew up their speakers! LOL
And the third, final version is said to be the worst of all. The five pings that circled all five channels have been reduced to 3 or 4, the entire mix is just as bad, if not worse, and the old silver Dolby Stereo Digital logo was replaced with a newer, gold Dolby Digital logo.
There have been other different variants of that trailer, but probably only appeared on TV, Laserdisc, DVD, etc. One example is the third version with the old Dolby Stereo Digital logo on the North American Widescreen THX Laserdisc of Stargate (1994).
Here are some different uploads of the "Train" trailer on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWcc96o_Vck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFr-rgdoiSw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8q3SwU0h88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NpDoNEVbhM (starts at 0:26)
Do you have any more information about this trailer? Thanks in advance.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-16-2011 12:54 PM
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The first version had a supposedly spectacular mix which started quiet, then got loud out of nowhere. It was kind of THX-esque, and from what I've learned lurking on the forums, this scared little kiddies before The Lion King at GCC Northpark West screen 1!
Yeah, I personally witnessed this very thing at GCC Northpark #1. Funny. The intense drum slam on The Lion King title was also very startling. Testament to the dynamics of that theater's powerful and very well tuned sound system.
The original mix is somewhat similar to last Train mix featuring the 1995 Dolby Digital logo. Except the dynamics are a lot more robust.
The real payoff with that trailer is being in a movie theater whose sound system can truly handle and deliver the mix at reference level. I got hooked on the Northpark 1-2 theater with Jurassic Park. They played the THX Grand trailer and the original DTS Digital Experience trailer before the show. Whoa, was that dynamic. And the drum beats on the Jurassic Park opening title pounded the air in my chest.
If more commercial movie theaters could deliver those kinds of dynamics on a consistent basis the way Northpark 1-2 did, I would visit those particular theaters a lot more often. But the combination of PITA customers complaining about loud volume and corporate honchos wanting to cut maintenance costs really get in the way of that.
quote: Mike Blakesley
Besides the above, the only knowledge I have is that it's not available as a DCP which is a cryin' shame.
While a DCP version might be interesing there's really no need for it since Dolby Digital is a lossy compressed audio format. Digital cinema uses uncompressed Linear PCM audio. The only possibility I could see for it would be a Dolby Surround 7.1 d-cinema version of Train. But even there, I don't think Dolby branding makes any sense for LPCM, an audio format that doesn't involve any Dolby encoding process.
quote: Brad Miller
Speaking of screwing up sound logos, I wish I could find my copy of the THX Cimarron with the original mix. It was sweeeeeeeeet! THX claims to know nothing about it, but it DOES exist.
My favorite THX trailer. I saw a 70mm version of Cimarron on the front of Far and Away at a General Cinemas theater on Atlanta's north side. Very cool. Made the hair on the back of my head stand on end when the THX logo flew past the camera. The only other versions I've seen are 35mm SR optical and 35mm Dolby Digital.
I have a DVD style .VOB file of the Dolby Digital one. Still pretty fun to watch.
THX could make a DCP version of Cimarron. But it seems like THX certified theaters are almost as endangered as film-equipped IMAX theaters.
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