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Author Topic: Old films? Wheredo I send? Jonathan Bodge Film Handler Posts: 83 From: East Dorset, VT Registered: Nov 2006 posted 05-21-2012 08:40 PM                     I have a few old 35 cartoons/& B&W kids acting. One is nitro and very old. Is there a place I could send them to if they should be archived?  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 05-21-2012 08:44 PM                     Send them to me, I can get them over to the UCLA Film Archive for preservation. Contact me by PM.  |  IP: Logged Donald Brown Expert Film Handler Posts: 131 From: Lincoln, DE Registered: Sep 2009 posted 05-21-2012 08:51 PM                     Jon: All of the old intermission materials that I had accumulated from drive-in theatres throughout New England and West Virginia, nearly 26,000 feet, are now in a collection at Northeast Historic Film in Bucksport, Maine. The organization has a temperature controlled storage facility, The Cube, to accommodate stock at various levels of stability with different environmental controls. Northeast Historic Film can be reached at: www.oldfilm.org Don Brown  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-21-2012 09:06 PM                     How would one send nitate content that is in great condition per chance?  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 05-21-2012 09:30 PM                     Eastman House in Rochester NY is another possibility. Note that it is illegal to ship nitrate film thru the US Mail. Some archives will arrange shipping for you, and send you packing instructions. Cartoons on safety film can be sold on eBay. Actually, so can nitrate cartoons and shorts, but legally shipping nitrate is a costly pain.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 05-21-2012 10:23 PM                     quote: Mitchell Dvoskin Cartoons on safety film can be sold on eBay. If you check the "Intellectual Property" section of e-bay's policy rules, it specifically prohibits selling 35 & 70mm film prints, although I have occasionally seen some listed. Sometimes the sellers get creative with the way they list it, and call it "used 35mm reels with film" or something like that. I found out about the "no 35mm" rule some years ago, when I had an extra print of a film I wanted to sell. E-bay rejected my listing because it violated their "intellectual property" rules. I even agrued with them that I had another print of the same film in 16mm and I could sell that one on e-bay, if I wanted to, but not the 35mm one - even though it was the same title. Go figure. . . . E-bay will permit you to list a 35 or 70mm film print if you can provide proof that you are the legal copyright owner or authorized agent of same.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Althaus Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Bedford, TX Registered: Dec 2008 posted 05-21-2012 10:36 PM                     Does that apply to trailers as well? I've bought some older trailers off eBay.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-21-2012 11:57 PM                        quote: Mitchell Dvoskin ...but legally shipping nitrate is a costly pain. Should anyone ever wish to do that, quote UN materials classification no. 1324 when asking a shipping company for a quote. That will enable them to look up everything they need to know in order to ship the stuff safely and legally. AMIA's nitrate film committee have also done a lot of work on resources and guidelines related to shipping the stuff within the US, and are worth getting in touch with if this is something you're seriously contemplating doing. On the Ebay issue, this sounds to me like ass-covering. The studios' line is that theoretically, any 35mm or 70mm print in private hands has to be stolen property, because they never sold outright or gave away any prints to anyone. As against which, many private collectors acquired films from dumpsters after the facility being paid to store them no longer got paid and got rid of them, etc. etc., and so the legal ownership of 35mm and 70mm films in private hands is a grey area that, I'm guessing, Ebay have decided that they just don't want to touch, hence the ban. Interestingly, there are shedloads of 35mm trailers on the British Ebay site all the time, but virtually never any actual feature films. I'm guessing this is because trailers are given away and no-one can deny it - they're sent unsolicited to theatres, for goodness' sake - and so Ebay take the view that no law enforcement agency in its right mind would take a stolen property complaint about trailers seriously.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Bodge Film Handler Posts: 83 From: East Dorset, VT Registered: Nov 2006 posted 05-22-2012 10:47 AM                     Well! Any excuse to go kayaking in Maine I'm all for! I think I'll hand deliver to Bucksport. Thanks all...  |  IP: Logged Keith Paynter Film Handler Posts: 7 From: Regina, SK, Canada Registered: Sep 2011 posted 05-22-2012 12:01 PM                     quote: Jonathan Althaus Does that apply to trailers as well? I've bought some older trailers off eBay. I believe that since trailers are advertising materials and have an "expiry date", they are qualified to sell on ebay. I think there's also something to do with the fact that it is already an edited form of a larger work.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 05-22-2012 12:15 PM                     35mm movies are a restricted item on eBay, not a prohibited item. While ebay does not seem to define what the restriction conditions are, in practice it means that anything goes unless a rights holder complains, at which time a specific auction will be pulled. There are a lot of 35mm cartoons and features on eBay. Current eBay Intellectual Property Page As to trailers, most older trailers, especially those from before 1990, were not copyrighted.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-22-2012 12:49 PM                        quote: Jonathan Bodge Well! Any excuse to go kayaking in Maine I'm all for! I think I'll hand deliver to Bucksport. Thanks all... David Weiss is the director of NHF and a lovely guy - if you call ahead and set up an appointment, I'm sure he'd be happy to give you a tour.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-22-2012 04:22 PM                        A projectionist friend gave me an original SPIDERMAN #1 trailer showing the World Trade Centre that was replaced with another after the 9/11 tragedy and was wondering if there is any value to it? I do recall many people being very disapointed when it was not included in the special edition of the movie on Blu Ray and DVD. It is as though the trailer never existed at all. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-22-2012 04:52 PM                     quote: Jonathan Bodge One is nitro and very old. Is there a place I could send them to if they should be archived? I have a contact at the Library of Congress Packard Center in Culpeper, VA if you are interested.  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 05-24-2012 06:29 AM                     The Ebay "rules" are a joke. I've seen many films listed and sold on Ebay. I've bought a bunch of them myself.  |  IP: Logged

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