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Topic: New releases 16mm?
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 05-24-2013 01:50 PM
Does the stock and lab services availability in the US still exist to enable the production of 16mm release prints of features that were shot either on 35mm or digitally?
When new mainstream features were routinely released on 16mm for airlines and the non-theatrical market (universities, film societies etc.), as a general rule they were either optically reduction printed from a 35mm fine grain IP to 16mm reversal (usually if only one or two prints were needed, e.g. of a foreign language title), or a separate 16mm IN was made and the prints struck from that.
Since the discontinuation of Ektachrome, Kodak doesn't make 16mm reversal stock anymore. I'm guessing that they still do 2393 in 16mm (though their website doesn't say). 3274 is still available (reportedly), so I guess it would still be possible to make a 16mm IN, either from a 35mm IP or as a digital filmout, and then make prints from that. Is there any lab left in the US that offers this service? If so, the cost would be eye-watering.
A couple of years ago, the last mainstream lab in Britain stopped 16mm release printing. Prestech still does, according to their website, but at a rough guess, based on the last time I had a 16mm work done by them in 2005, you would not get much change out of $20k if you walked in with a feature film length 35mm IP and asked them to make a 16mm IN, track neg and print.
I simply can't see that being viable for the tiny number of prints that would be needed for the number of venues that might still want to rent them.
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
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posted 05-25-2013 04:55 AM
As for 8 mm, Derrann Film Services which used to sell new prints in the UK closed in 2011. They had these made by a lab in the North after Rank ceased printing smaller than 35 mm several years previously. Derrann used to do the striping, recording and slitting themselves.
A couple of weeks ago I downloaded a Kodak Motion Picture catalogue. It does still list a print stock in double Super 8 1-3 format, i.e. a 16 mm stock perforated for two 8 mm prints running in the same direction, but I would guess that it's made to order, and I doubt if anybody is ordering it now. There used to be a 1-4 format, with perforations down both edges like double 8 camera stock, for two prints running in opposite directions, but this seems to be unavailable, as does the 35 mm stock perforated for Super-8 printed four-up, as was used in the days when large volumes of 8 mm printing was done.
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