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Author Topic: No more 35mm Tr's (that's TRAILERS in normal English speak) Jerry D. Cox Film Handler Posts: 35 From: Nashville, TN, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-04-2013 12:59 PM                     Fox inform me that they were no longer making 35mm Tr's  |  IP: Logged James Westbrook Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1133 From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa Registered: Mar 2006 posted 06-04-2013 01:06 PM                     Clarification: Do you mean "trailers?"  |  IP: Logged Jerry D. Cox Film Handler Posts: 35 From: Nashville, TN, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-04-2013 01:19 PM                     YES They told me at Fox last Wed. That they were no Longer making 35mm Trailers  |  IP: Logged Daniel Schulz Master Film Handler Posts: 387 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 06-04-2013 04:49 PM                        Confirmed. There will be exceptions, especially for Searchlight titles; but in general, Fox trailers will now be DCP only for North America.  |  IP: Logged Jock Blakley Expert Film Handler Posts: 218 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Oct 2011 posted 06-05-2013 04:33 AM                     Seems to have already happened Down Under - the last title we received a 35mm trailer for was DJANGO UNCHAINED, and that was after a significant gap.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 06-05-2013 07:18 AM                     Can somebody please edit the subject so people like me won't waste tome clicking ont the topic wondering what the heck a Tr is?  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 06-05-2013 09:25 AM                     I knew what the subject meant when I read it. No problem. But what I'm curious about is "how" were you informed of this? Is there a letter or press release you can post? Tnx  |  IP: Logged Barry Floyd Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1079 From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-05-2013 01:43 PM                        Knew that was coming sooner or later. Once you go digital though, you'll have more trailers than you can actually play. I rarely find 3-4 new trailers per week on the trail mix drives.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-05-2013 02:02 PM                        Does "trailers" really take that much effort to say/type that it needs to be abbreviated? But Fox (and others) will soon stop making 35mm anything, so be prepared.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-05-2013 02:50 PM                        quote: Barry Floyd Once you go digital though, you'll have more trailers than you can actually play. I rarely find 3-4 new trailers per week on the trail mix drives. That's for sure. I sure wish whoever makes the trailer DCPs would get together and figure out how to name the stupid things sensibly (and stop with the #%@$ abbreviated names already! Who knows what the hell "SDE" means? If the title is too long just use the first couple of words, or at least whole words.) Who knew that managing trailers would turn into the most complicated job in the booth?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 06-05-2013 03:59 PM                     (I always used the "Tlr" for my trailer shortcut) Yet, you think the DCP naming convention could shorten up the content naming some (like, why do we need to know the MDY and similar..)to it can be easier to use along with having it alphabetically in order on the trailer drives (or, it could be the server/lms's fault not getting the titles in order), so one doesn't have to hunt for them when doing the builds?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-05-2013 05:00 PM                     There is often too much over abbreviation and Monte, you are definitely in that category. If you want to get into the trailer naming thing...is there a decent place to figure out the various versions of the stupid things? The "branded" ones are easy to figure out...I'm talking about the trailer version numbers and alternates...why does one pick the "Trailer 2" versus the "Trailer 3" or "Trailer 3 Alt" versions? Some just use the highest number trailer and if that is the best method...why do they continue to include the "stale" versions? I can understand having "Teasers" and "Trailers." But a bazillion versions? Please. DCI naming convention requires the month/day/year thing and I'm okay with that...it is a quick way to know when it was made and that it is the same version one is looking for to use. How about a DCI requirement that ALL DCinema servers have to be able to display the whole DCI name on any screen where content is to be ingested or even "built" up? Often the important stuff is cut off (5.1/7.1, Dbox, Brand Specific stuff...etc).  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-05-2013 05:31 PM                        I am amazed they are still bothering to send trailers out on hard drives. A much better solution would be to have a password-protected website where a cinema could download the trailers they want, rather than having to slog through all the crap on the hard drives. Such a website could be categorized, into sections like "Most recent versions," "Chain-specific versions," "Non-IMAX versions," "Policy tags," and "3-D Glasses notices," among other categories. Surely the bandwidth required for this would be way cheaper for the studios than paying for UPS and FedEx to haul thousands of drives all over the world. If this idea WAS implemented, cinemas that don't have broadband internet should still be able to get the hard drives if they desired. The other "wish" I have is that they use Technicolor and/or Deluxe for this, and stay away from the "each studio has its own website" option. It'd be much better for an operator to go to one site, check off the items to download, then go home for the night, rather than having to slog through a dozen different sites.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 06-05-2013 05:43 PM                        Why would it need to be password protected? Trailers are ADVERTISING -- you know, the stuff that you want to expose to everyone possible so they come to your theatre and watch the move.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-05-2013 05:48 PM                        At least with film, the difference between a "version A" and "version B" trailer is often just the inclusion of a release date at the end. Typically, the "version A" would just say "coming soon" (or something to that effect) and "version B" would have an actual date. I could see where a theatre that is opening the film on its national release date would want to advertise that, while a theatre that is playing the same film later would prefer not to show the date. I don't know if this is still the case, as I am out of the loop on first-run exhibition practices and have been for a few years now. In any case, there definitely should be a way to find out what the differences are between versions.  |  IP: Logged

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