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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 09-24-2013 01:35 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am looking for about 25 16mm reel bands of the type that Swank uses on their 16mm prints. They are made of thick plastic and have a metal clip that holds them together around the film. These are quite different in construction from standard 35mm paper reel bands, but they serve the same purpose. Who makes/sells these?

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Robert E. Allen
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 - posted 09-24-2013 11:59 PM      Profile for Robert E. Allen   Email Robert E. Allen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Scott: Why don't you ask the guys over at 16mm Film Talk?

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Scott Norwood
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Thanks; will do.

More information: these bands say "Pro-Tex" on them. Google says that the trademark has not been renewed, but that it was previously owned by Anderson Industries in Cleveland.

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Gordon McLeod
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up here every one had a painted cloth reel band similar to what the censor board issued for 35mm

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Leo Enticknap
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If you don't mind my asking, and with apologies for veering this potentially off topic, but are these bands to use on prints in regular use or in long-term storage?

If the 16mm prints in question are polyester this doesn't really matter, but if they're triacetate then film in long-term storage needs to breathe, or else the build-up of acetic acid vapour between the film pack and the flanges of the reels, and around the edges of the film pack if sealed with a band, can accelerate the vinegar syndrome process and cause the film to decay faster than otherwise.

In an ideal world, acetate film elements should be in long term storage on/in an inert polypropylene core/container, and preferably in a vented can and in a vault with good air circulation (to get rid of acetic off-gases) and temperature and humidity control (to keep the rate of deacetylation to a minimum).

Obviously, most of us are not in an ideal world, but what struck me here is that putting bands around film elements that are going to be in long-term storage could be making a problem worse. But if they're to protect regularly projected prints in shipping, then no problem.

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Scott Norwood
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These are for polyester prints intended for projection.

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Ed Inman
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Scott, I have a slitter that will convert paper 35mm reel bands to 16mm. It cuts right down the middle so the string attachment is unaffected. I can make as many as you need for 25 cents each. Just send me some unwanted 35mm reel bands. Email for more information edinman@earthlink.net

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Scott Norwood
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Thanks, Ed. I still want the plastic ones, but I will be in touch if they cannot be located.

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Gary A. Hoselton
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Try Steve Newton in Atlanta. He has an amazing range of goodies. sanewton@bellsouth.net

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