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Mike Heenan
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From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 04-23-2014 07:26 PM      Profile for Mike Heenan   Email Mike Heenan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My Kelmar table has been cinching acetate film lately. The tension is let out all the way, and the feed reels are sometimes loose wound but usually tight. What usually happens is the motor will start "groaning" or grinding, and will clicking as the take up reel is getting full and will start cinching so that when it finishes, the middle is loose and the outer part is tight. At other times, I'll get a tight core, but it causes cinching on the feed reel. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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 - posted 04-24-2014 01:21 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wouldn't blame the table, but more the film,esp where it's acetate, and we all know that acetate gets a slight bit of a lateral curl in it when the stuff ages due to slight shrinkage.

Wind the film opposite then - If you're doing emulsion out, wind it emulsion in to counter-act the curl.

-Monte

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Randy Stankey
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Agreed. When film doesn't behave the way you want it to, try winding it in the opposite orientation in the reel or platter.

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
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 - posted 04-24-2014 09:10 AM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Have you checked your motor brushes?

You might need to replace or re-seat one (or both) of them.

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Mike Heenan
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From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
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I did the winding opposite way trick and that seemed to have worked on a couple reels. I like to store acetate emulsion in as that's what Kodak recommends. Some polyester reels I rewound didn't have any issues. I should probably have the brushes looked at as well, thanks!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 04-25-2014 04:53 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We have a large stock of Kelmar rewinders just in case....

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