Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » switching channels on CP2220 while running

   
Author Topic: switching channels on CP2220 while running
Laura Hicks
Film Handler

Posts: 7
From: Tallahassee, FL, USA
Registered: Mar 2016


 - posted 08-02-2016 05:21 PM      Profile for Laura Hicks   Email Laura Hicks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a Blu-ray player connected to my Christie CP2220, so there are two channels I made on the Touch Panel Controller for different aspect ratios; one's 1.85:1 and the other's 2.35:1. Is it bad to switch channels (or, aspect ratios) while a movie is being projected? May seem like an odd request, but I have a film with subtitles for only ONE frame of the entire movie, but the subtitles appear within the letterboxing (the film is 2.35:1 but the subtitles appear below that). Would it be bad for the projector if I began the film in 1.85:1 to show that very first frame's subtitles, and then immediately switch to 2.35:1? (the frame is black with white text so it would not be too obvious, just didn't know if that was good for the projector)

 |  IP: Logged

Phil Ranucci
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 236
From: Carpinteria,CA, United States
Registered: May 2006


 - posted 08-02-2016 06:17 PM      Profile for Phil Ranucci   Email Phil Ranucci   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It certainly won't hurt the projector, but a few things your audience will notice.
Is your machine set up to close the douser (shutter) when changing formats? Your screen might go dark briefly during the
change, also you might see the lens shifting and zooming to go to the scope format. Do you have movable masking? At what point in the movie is this subtitle?
Will you be in letterboxed mode for a long time before the title appears? Might be a bit weird to see the picture changing after 45 minutes.Only 1 minute might not be so jarring to the audience.

Also you should move this to the Digital Cinema forum.

 |  IP: Logged

Laura Hicks
Film Handler

Posts: 7
From: Tallahassee, FL, USA
Registered: Mar 2016


 - posted 08-02-2016 06:24 PM      Profile for Laura Hicks   Email Laura Hicks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, I believe our dowser closes briefly when changing channels. I'm getting a new Blu-ray for this particular movie, but thought I'd ask this odd question in case I ever needed to do this as a last resort! Thanks!

 |  IP: Logged

Jim Cassedy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1661
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Dec 2006


 - posted 08-02-2016 06:41 PM      Profile for Jim Cassedy   Email Jim Cassedy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No, it won't hurt the projector.
There may be not much you can do. I had two films on blupray at a film festival
last week which each ran multiple times. The movie was definitely 'shot' for 2:35
aspect ratio. But the subtitles, and occasional supertitle at the top of the screen
were all rendered in the black, outside the picture area.

It was this way on every blu-ray player, monitor and projector I tried testing with.
It was just the way the blu-ray was authored. I had no choice but to run those two
films at a compromised (less than full width) screen size, to preserve the sub &
supertitles. In my line of work, this isn't the first time I've encountered this- -
mostly with stuff from Japan, which is where these two movies were from.

 |  IP: Logged

Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 08-02-2016 09:28 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Depending upon how the subtitles are encoded, some players (the Oppo is one) will allow the position of the subtitles to be adjusted. This only works with player-generated subtitles, not with "burned-in" subtitles.

 |  IP: Logged

Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 08-03-2016 11:25 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I feel Laura's pain - I get many titles (on BDs, files, and in some cases DCPs) that are scope within a 16:9 or 1.85 matte, with the subtitles burnt in on the bottom matte. They usually come from kids doing first-time fest entries. Why do these people go to the trouble of composing and shooting their movies in scope, only to hand over something at the end of post that can only be shown letterboxed?!

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)  
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.