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Author Topic: Nice 35mm Dolby SR sound Pre. SRD/DTS/SDDS Jerry Axelsson Expert Film Handler Posts: 107 From: Stockholm, Sweden Registered: May 2005 posted 06-04-2018 11:29 AM                     I gave a reel of DAYS OF THUNDER a spin some time ago. The Dolby SR track was quite nice. Was lacking a bit in the deepest bass section, but otherwise quite crisp and full. Do you have any thoughts or tips of great sounding SR tracks pre 35mm Digital sound. (CDS not counted)? Any thoughts of what you like and why would be interesting to hear. I bet the 70mm SR tracks of DAYS OF THUNDER was not lacking in the bass section...  |  IP: Logged Sascha F. Roll Expert Film Handler Posts: 140 From: Berlin, Berlin / Germany Registered: Sep 2015 posted 06-04-2018 01:28 PM                     Hi Jerry, TERMINATOR II in Dolby SR comes to my mind, stunning soundtrack. Batman returns in Dolby A also sounds PRETTY good. I recently tested reel 1 of "007 - LICENSE TO KILL" in Dolby SR and was very surprised to hear the Title Track in great quality, very dynamic, nice HF and nice bass response.  |  IP: Logged Jerry Axelsson Expert Film Handler Posts: 107 From: Stockholm, Sweden Registered: May 2005 posted 06-06-2018 03:53 PM                     Hello Sascha, Thank you for your tips. I have only seen the two films you mention in the original release year at my local cinema which at the time had a Dolby CP-50 with (Dolby A only). My memory of these films is that they sounded nice even played back in Dolby 04. But that was like +27 years ago. Any more tips out there?  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 06-06-2018 04:06 PM                     The original release prints of Terminator 2 were Dolby A, and sounded outstanding. SR was not yet in existence. Other great sounding Dolby A films (original release) were Edward Scissorhand and Lion King (I believe SR prints were also struck). My favorite early SR film for sound quality was Twister.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-06-2018 04:47 PM                     There were SR 35mm prints of Terminator 2. Lion King had SRD prints struck. Every print of Twister was quad format (meaning DTS/SRD/SDDS/SR analog).  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 06-06-2018 05:23 PM                     > There were SR 35mm prints of Terminator 2. I did not know that. Thanks for the heads up.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-06-2018 08:38 PM                     quote: Jerry Axelsson Do you have any thoughts or tips of great sounding SR tracks pre 35mm Digital sound. (CDS not counted)? I was fairly impressed with the Dolby SR track on Thelma and Louise. I watched it at the Loews Village Theatre VII, which had just opened. It had the first THX certified screen in Manhattan. They played the Cimarron trailer (my favorite THX trailer) and a Dolby SR trailer too. Dances With Wolves was another early 35mm Dolby SR show I thought sounded pretty good in the theater (the Loews Paramount). Once the 35mm digital sound formats took hold, with Jurassic Park being the one that blew the doors wide open on it, great sounding 35mm Dolby SR became a lesser priority. I had been kind of impressed with how 35mm Dolby SR sounded, but got quickly spoiled to digital sound in association with 35mm prints. I was blown away by the Jurassic Park shows at the GCC Northpark 1-2 in Dallas. I had never experienced quality movie theater sound in such a big auditorium -with dynamics that could literally pound the air in my chest. I must have watched that movie there at least half a dozen times in 1993. quote: Jerry Axelsson Any thoughts of what you like and why would be interesting to hear. I bet the 70mm SR tracks of DAYS OF THUNDER was not lacking in the bass section... Were the 70mm prints of Days of Thunder in Dolby SR? Or did Paramount have dual inventories of A-type and SR-type 70mm prints? The ads for Days of Thunder in New York City didn't mention Dolby SR for any of the 70mm shows. I watched the movie near the end of its run at the Ziegfeld. If the 70mm print was A-type the show still sounded very good. I think Flatliners replaced it (also in 70mm). quote: Mitchell Dvoskin The original release prints of Terminator 2 were Dolby A, and sounded outstanding. SR was not yet in existence. You might be getting the release date of The Terminator (1984) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) confused. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986) was the first movie to use Dolby SR (on 70mm prints at a couple of Los Angeles locations). IIRC, Robocop (1987) was the first to use Dolby SR optical on 35mm release prints. I watched that movie at the Loews 34th Street East theater. I'm pretty sure that was a 35mm Dolby SR show. It didn't sound quite as good as magnetic audio on 70mm, but it was definitely better than the typical optical (often mono) sound I associated with most 35mm shows. Great movie. I sat through it twice during that trip to the theater. quote: Brad Miller Lion King had SRD prints struck. I can't remember where I read the technical detail, but Disney had two inventories of Dolby Digital prints of The Lion King. Some of the prints had optical tracks with A-type noise reduction while others had SR-type. Normally the whole "SR•D" thing was supposed to mean the print would have SR-type analog and digital audio on the same print. Some of The Lion King prints were really in "A•D" format.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-06-2018 09:59 PM                     Bobby, there were Dolby A optical (no digital) prints and Dolby SR optical with SRD digital track prints on Lion King. Not many of the SRD ones though, as there was only one printer at Technicolor that could print SRD at the time.  |  IP: Logged Florian Kuik Film Handler Posts: 39 From: meppel, drenthe, nederland Registered: Feb 2016 posted 06-07-2018 04:14 AM                     The prints of terminator 2 Dolby SR where also on polyester stock for what i've seen. They sound great, but most of them where dolby A because of sound issues i heard.  |  IP: Logged Sascha F. Roll Expert Film Handler Posts: 140 From: Berlin, Berlin / Germany Registered: Sep 2015 posted 06-07-2018 10:56 AM                     The german prints of TERMINATOR II were Dolby SR only and on Acetate Stock (Agfa Gevaert).  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-07-2018 11:24 AM                        I saw U2: Rattle and Hum in optical SR. I think it was a THX screen too. It sounded pretty impressive.  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 06-07-2018 11:41 AM                     I have a lab fresh Dolby SR 35mm print of Remains Of The Day which sounds very smooth and dynamic. Interesting thing is the Dolby Digital track on it reads great but is silent.No audio at all. Must have been when they were testing the system.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-07-2018 02:13 PM                     Florian - what makes you think T2 was on polyester stock? Have you personally handled one and know for a fact it was? I would be shocked to hear that unless maybe the print you handled in the Netherlands was dubbed and printed on some non-Kodak stock at a lab in your part of the world. The Russian dubbed prints of T2 are on Agfa and fading horribly. (Plus they would have the dubbed track.)  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 06-07-2018 02:39 PM                     Going back to Summer of 1980 here: Villa Theatre in SLC, UTAH This venue opened up "Xanadu" and friend and I went to this theatre (I was a Mann Theatre employee at the time. Thus, being the Villa was also Mann, I knew the projectionists there..) The sound was incredible for a 4 channel, Dolby A setup. The local tech for Mann in that city, fine tuned the house for Dolby Optical and did a fantastic job in his trade. Location was still a changeover house. Thus, the two machines were in total sync where you couldn't sense the changeovers. On a business note: Xanadu was a total flop for Universal, yet, with just the sound alone, the film made good money for Universal that summer at the Villa. Film ran for six weeks at this venue. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Stephan Shelley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 854 From: castro valley, CA, usa Registered: Nov 2014 posted 06-07-2018 03:01 PM                     There were 70mm prints of Day of Thunder that had the early ORC/Kodak digital system. The Cinema in Corte Medera CA got a week run out of it before the sound died. They decided it was time to run the print through the film cleaner and that was the end to the digital sound. The print was sent back and stripped with mag sound.  |  IP: Logged

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